Transcript and Whine, Part 3

Part 1.

Part 2.

As you may recall, we broke off in mid-sentence because that was all I could take. We’ll take up right where we left off.

coming in, but I just wanted to kind of clarify some of the, um, stuff that’s going on. What’s happening to us, we are documenting it. And if it doesn’t fit in with your, you know, your nar, what you want to see in your newsfeed, then just simply unfollow the page.

But to say that this is a part of what the page is about, this is our life. And these are things that not only us have to deal with, but we’re just the ones that go public with it. Um, you know, I’m sure there’ll be comments here, I get private messages of people who’ve had similar experiences.

So if you shame somebody for talking up about what they’ve experienced, um, that’s, that’s just, again, back to the whole mommy shaming thing, there’s no reason to tear other people down. If someone says they’ve experienced something, then they experienced it.

Okay, I experienced watching Joe drink a beer in the road. Ron Sneed experienced what he describes on that video. Lisa experienced going to the door to greet a police officer who was sent there either by you, Nicole, or one of your accomplices. Al’s daughter experienced Joe trying to intimidate her. These are all our experiences.

But on that turn, don’t make stuff up to try to destroy somebody. It’s not, it’s not fair. It’s not fair to me, it’s not fair to my husband, and it’s certainly not fair to my children. They are aware of what’s going on. People say, oh, well, your kids are sheltered, you need to expose them to the world, and then say oh, your kids are exposed to too much. It’s another one of those conundrums that you just can’t ever do right.

But my children do, are exposed to this, because they are involved. You know, when CPS comes to the house because someone tells them that we don’t have heat, and they come to the house to see smoke coming out of the chimney and the woodstove just cranking away. You know, CPS documents that, and they’re like, you know, I understand this is harassment, we’re doing what we can to try to protect you guys from this harassment, but the case is still open, and we’re trying to keep things, so it’s all being documented. All of this harassment is.

But my kids are affected by it. And, you know, the snide remark about the other day when I spelled [child’s name] wrong, typed [child’s name] wrong on the Facebook page and someone made a comment about , oh, it doesn’t, don’t worry, he probably can’t read. My 14-year-old not only can read, but he actually can read comments of people that post shares from our page because that comes up on our notifications. So that was kind of just a lame thing to do.

But anyways, um, um, that’s kind of what I wanted to update on, if anybody has any questions, if you read something about us that you just think doesn’t jive right or you’re like oh my gosh, I can’t believe she did that, just feel free to ask me. I’m open and up front.

Yeah, just feel free to ask.

These are just a few recent examples of what a joy Nicole is to be around.

I have done things I’m not proud of. I’ve said things to people that I’m probably, you know, shouldn’t have said. Most of the time, they are provoked. Um, um, things I said to the blogger about her son, um, I’m sorry, it was after numerous, numerous, numerous attacks, and I lashed back with the, a very sharp tongue. And um, you know, I’m human. Not perfect. Never said I was. And that’s one of my faults.

This is, of course, not an apology. It wasn’t intended for me. This was intended for Nicole’s humpers, because even they are decent enough to know that what she has said about Nathan is beyond vile. She wants to backpedal so she’s being “humble.”

She is also lying.

I have been over all this before, but I’m going to put it all here because newbies.

My original contact with Joe and Nicole Naugler came when I saw the “viral” story of the children being taken. Please pay attention to this. Prior to May, 2015, there were no “trolls” except in Nicole’s imagination and her revised history. Nobody knew who the Nauglers  were.

I saw the story on one of the news pages and made a comment. All I said was something about agreeing that the state did the right thing. I followed that up with a few (and by few, I mean few, maybe five) comments on the various critical pages.

Joe came over to my personal Facebook page, which is open (anyone can comment, so just because somebody comments on my page, that doesn’t mean they are my Facebook friend or I know them), and began snooping around. First he “followed” me, knowing I would get a notification that he had done so. Then he started “liking” a few random pictures, knowing I’d be notified of that. He wanted me to be aware of him. And then, finally he initiated a conversation with me.

At that point (sometime in September 2015 if I’m not mistaken), I had made just a few comments on some of the various critical pages. Not many. But Joe was going to cut me off at my knees, he thought. The whole conversation is at the link I provided.

All that accomplished was to get my attention and retain my interest. Had Joe never done that, I suspect I would have forgotten they existed in a matter of a few days.

I started this blog that December, two years ago now. I did so anonymously at first, knowing that sooner or later, they would figure out who I was. I didn’t really care one way or another, but I’m glad I did it that way now, as you will see.

Almost immediately, I started getting what I call “love letters,” nasty private messages to the blog. Most of them are there. Remember that these were written when Nicole and Joe and the humpers were not sure who I was. They didn’t know for sure. They were guessing. They guessed wildly and often. I got a slew of these.

And when I went public on February 23, the day I published the “Love Letters” piece, they slowed to a crawl and then stopped.

I want to repeat that.

As soon as Nicole knew who the blogger was, the messages pretty much stopped.

I’m going to put a few of those love letters here. I know they’re all over on the other page, but a few of them are worse than the others.

Nathan

Nathan suicide

vagina

These three, at least these three, were written about my son, mocking his death to me and they didn’t even know for sure I was the author of the blog. They didn’t know.

Imagine sending vile messages like that to a stranger and not being sure you have the right person at all.

That’s Nicole Naugler’s character, right there.

In March, she admitted writing at least some of them.

She absolutely, for certain, wrote this one:

Later on, that became that only one she would admit to, because her IP address gave her away, but they all smell of her.

NIcole dead junkie

nathan admission

There is one other issue here, and I want the newbies to think about it.  This blog was very new then. Nicole is wanting to pretend that there were so many people who loved them and followed them and supported them that those people would go to such lengths for them as to write horrible messages to somebody, accusing that somebody of vile things, without being sure of the identity of the person, all because they loved Nicole so much.

Occam’s Razor tells me this is just horse shit.

Nicole’s biggest defender, the person who jumps in to do battle with anyone who dares say a single word negative about her, is almost certainly Nicole herself.  She has almost no friends (and freely says so). She prefers online communication to real life interaction (and freely says that too). She is her biggest and most virulent advocate.

But you know what?  I get the whole idea that she was mad, and she wrote this awful thing, and yeah, she felt provoked, and lashed out.

And if that’s all it was, well, I’d be likely to buy it.

But that’s not all it is.

Nathan 1

Nathan 2

This, I think, is ground zero for the imaginary story Nicole has concocted about Nathan’s life and death.  It’s dated August, 2016.  She read some of what I’d blogged about and extrapolated from that.  Her opinion (and I don’t begrudge her having an opinion) is that I was a terrible parent because Nathan was being bullied and I didn’t stop it.

We did stop it as soon as we realized what was happening, but no matter.

I give her the right to have an opinion.

But she goes on to elaborate, and she does so as though what she is writing is factual.  She never says, “I think he was bullied, ” or “I think she expected too much out of him.”  She just states it as fact.

She even gets what few facts she uses entirely incorrect. For example, Nathan was thirty when he died, not 25.  I lived 4000 miles away from him, so it would have been pretty difficult for me to “feel important” when he had some success with his music.  Dave and I flew to North Carolina about twice a year for brief visits.  We spoke with Nate on the phone nearly daily, which is interesting since according to Nicole, he simply despised us.

But I could almost give her this one, too, as just lashing out because she was pissed off.

mentallyill8

Asked what my name is, she responds by bringing up Nathan.

nathan4

Ah, and it begins.  This, I think, is ground zero for the suicide thing. Suicide.  Mental abuse to the point of suicide.

nathan5

nathan6

nathan8

This is me not giving a shit.

We noticed.

address

In this one, she adds to the story.

The pansy ass hubby let his wife mess with that kids head.

So Dave is now a “pansy ass” who couldn’t stop me from abusing Nathan emotionally.  Remember that.

Joe takes up the story here. He states it like it’s fact. Nathan committed suicide, he says.  Nathan did not commit suicide, but that does not stop them.

It morphs, though.

Remember?  Dave is a “pansy ass.”

Only now he’s not.  Now he’s an abusive alcoholic who was the person who abused Nathan so much that he killed himself.  I’m not guilty any more.  Dave is. I’m just feeling badly because I didn’t stand up to Dave, the abusive alcoholic.

You see, this is not about Nicole just feeling frustrated because I provoked her “numerous, numerous, numerous” times.  This is about Nicole sending me horrible messages when she wasn’t even sure who I was, mocking my son’s death when she wasn’t even certain I was the person she should be angry with, and then refusing to back down on it and fabricating a story.

This is about her making stuff up, and then Joe making up more stuff, and repeating the narrative “numerous” times until they can convince their brain-dead followers that it’s true. They have been chirping out this bogus story now for more than a year, non-stop.

The only new additions have been that somehow she has decided that I was a serial killer when I was nursing.

So, this is why her “apology” isn’t any sort of apology.

And this is why I say, “Fuck you, Nicole, and fuck you more, Joe.” This is why this blog remains and will be here as long as Nicole continues to publicly spew her nonsense.

So, um, anyways, just what I wanted to say, I need to wrap this up and I will talk to you guys later.

Thank you.

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28 thoughts on “Transcript and Whine, Part 3”

  1. Joseph Edward Naugler is so arrogant that he believes that he can lie to God and that God is not all knowing.

    If Joseph had prophetic insight he would know that God is not fooled and that he is headed for the outer darkness. Those who reject the gospels and commit grievous sins shall dwell in the Telestial Kingdom, away from God’s light. We believe Nicole C Button Naugler will remain by Joseph’s side.

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  2. This stands out to me because i feel confident, as a known CASA, we work with social workers closely.

    What she is saying they(the social workers) are expressing to her is fabricated.

    Telling a family that you are investigating a known harassment claim is preposterous, and if it were true, anyone who is familiar with how Nicole handles such “evidence” would know, she would have exposed such an atrocity the minute it happened. She didn’t, because IT didn’t happen.

    The fact that we openly respond to your public outrage is not harassment.
    The fact that Ron doesn’t want goats and horses on his property is not harassment.
    The fact that Al flies a path that just happens to be over your rent to own property is not harassment.
    The fact that Lisa doesn’t like you is not harassment.

    You are a mean spirited, toxic person with an entitlement issue and a platform that you do not truly understand the ramifications of.
    Unfortunately for the Kentucky 11 they have no say about being a sideshow act in this circus you perpetuate.

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  3. words from the woman who let her baby die inside her and now seeks sympathy.

    fuck you nikki

    baby killer nikki

    buried like a dog in the back yard…bring on the paypal… and dont forget I just lost my sweet baby when ever I am being a bitch and need someone to feel sorry for me nikki

    you brought every bit of this on yourself

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  4. Don’t make stuff up to try to destroy someone. You should practice what you preach, Nicole.

    1. You accused someone of KILLING your dog, Aster, no information on how. Later it was determined that your dog died in a hit and run (information that you deliberately left out) and the person in question lived thousands of miles away. Your other dog, Angel, was being aggressive at a neighbor’s home and shot. The neighbor told Al who stated this in the video (and previously provided it to someone you know). Now you have accused this neighbor of killing BOTH your dogs; with no evidence on the hit and run fatality. Do you plan on accusing everyone in the community of killing your dog, Aster? Where are the apologies from you to the people you have falsely accused of killing Angel?

    2. You accused Linda and a local woman of running your son off the road. A video showed your son admitting to almost causing the accident (the video was posted due to your lies about Linda and the local woman). I have yet to see you apologize to Linda and the local woman.

    3. In your original posts regarding the horse incident, you stated that Mr. Sneed had a gun. You stated your husband was there and your son retrieved the horse with a bucket of grain. Not once did you state your husband had a gun which he handed to your son. Why? Because the story garners more sympathy if your audience reads that your husband and your son were UNARMED while trying to peacefully resolve the issue with an ARMED neighbor. Mr. Sneed stated both sides had a gun and now you state that as a fact. You state that your husband did indeed hand your son the gun. In all your previous posts you were adamant about your son not holding a gun. This is what is called a lie of omission, Nicole, and you do that often. As far as what you husband actually said while/after handing the gun, you have the recording, did you play it for the attorney?

    4. Lie of omission: While at the hotel, you stated your family was physically attacked. Your followers were understandably upset. But it turned out your car was ‘physically attacked’, the tags were stolen.

    5. Lie of omission: You state that you and your husband checked out Al Wilson’s place. You state that Joe thought it MIGHT be Al’s house and stopped and read the mailbox. You state you did not see Al’s daughter. Nicole, you should read the interchange between your husband and Al. It provides an entirely different story. Joe and his son did not only check out Al’s house, but leered at his daughter to the point that she felt uncomfortable. What did Joe state…the spirit moved him?

    6. Lie of omission: You state that the only thing preventing you from composting waste like the county is the permit paperwork and fee. But that is not correct. There is no RESIDENTIAL permit for composting waste, only COMMERCIAL and that requires a lot more than filling out paperwork and paying a fee.

    Nicole, people don’t trust you because you lie by omission and commission. You even will occasionally make statements that conflict with your husband’s. There are plenty of other examples I can provide, but I think this will do for now.

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  5. Sorry, I am getting Aster and Angel mixed up. That last question in paragraph 1 should say: Do you plan on accusing everyone in the community of killing your dog, Aster?

    I hope this is the only mistake I made.

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  6. Nicole is mad. Oh dear. What a dental infection she is.

    Nicole, who strives to antagonize anyone who very naturally looks at her sideways much less at how she subjects her children to living, is upset because she was an irresponsible and incompetent business owner and abandoned the name of her business. She did this after harassing Lisa with a bogus IPO, costing her money and accosting her at the courthouse. Nicole gets a pass in Nauglerworld? Nicole, have you ever considered that Lisa is under no obligation whatsoever to justify her purchase and usage of the business name you abandoned? Rather, if any explanation is remotely required, it is from you, dear Nicole as to why you abandoned the name through neglect and why you tried to keep mail from coming to you (Lowe’s coupons, really?).

    Nicole and that thing she is married to, have yet to produce a single recording or or piece of documentation that would exonerate themselves. Instead, they put out recordings of their own yammering, articulating nonexistent rights and nonexistent laws for their benefit and putting words into other peoples’ mouths and acting like fools around law enforcement. “Shoot Me!!!”

    Nicole and the movie prop from The Blob are capable of effort. They put a great deal of effort into grifting, avoiding work, making more children, doxxing, harassing anyone who comes to dislike them (that would be everybody who personally meets them), and straining all principles of fiction writing to their limit with tales of their victim hood.

    Why are reasonable, law abiding people subjected to this crazy?

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  7. The most vile people ever to walk the earth, Sally, I am so sorry that these two say these awful things about your son. I really am. a pox on there shed

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  8. On Blessed Little Homestead Nicole Naugler states repeatedly that she has psycho stalkers. That her family is in danger. So what does she do? She Publishes a series photos of her children. Photo after photo after photo.

    Parents telling their children they’re in danger and then running an advertising campaign on a public page to at least 47,000, who knows what kind of public audience, considering some of the Facebook friends, according to the news, like to be criminally “intimate” with children. ( is tha a dog whistle for Pedo’s?)

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  9. Thank you, BLB. This is an excellent breakdown of what happened to you. It is easy to to see Joe Naugler’s true “persona” toward you in his comments, and by watching his videos. That’s one angry and vindictive man.
    Most of the Naugler fans see Nicole as the last bastion of defence of her family without realizing that the criticisms are directed at the parent’s behavior, never the children themselves. Nicole is and always has been the instigator, Nicole is an expert at spin and lying to garner sympathy (and those most important donations), Nicole has always spread lies and fabricated situations to always, always be the victim.
    The Naugler children live with these toxic people who cannot provide, educate, or set any reasonable example of being decent humans. The adults who have been targeted by the Nauglers are able to handle the b.s. It’s the Naugler’s own children who are the victims, every day they are privvy to and observe their parent’s horrible behavior.
    Naugler supporters: do you like their buddy Charles Smyth? Why would such innocent and wonderful people allow the comments Charles makes? They’re worse on Nicole’s other site, Nicole C Naugler, check it out.
    My opinion, based on nearly 3 years of observing the adult Nauglers.

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  10. If she shows cute pics of the kids then people will see them as the vulnerable little people that they are and want to help them. (Never mind that the kids’ own parents are the most dangerous people in their lives.) Simple psychology. It does prove yet again that Joe and Nicole aren’t stupid, they know EXACTLY what they are doing, which is worse than if they were ignorant and making mistakes.

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  11. Naugler supporters: do you like their buddy Charles Smyth? Why would such innocent and wonderful people allow the comments Charles makes? They’re worse on Nicole’s other site, Nicole C Naugler, check it out.

    Charles is often Larisa Baraldi, but just as often, Charles is Nicole herself. It’s fairly obvious if you look at the way Charles writes. Nicole uses Charles to be nasty so Nicole can look innocent.

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  12. Sally,
    Thank you for writing this blog. I’ve followed the Naugler story since May ’15, and your blog since ’16. I’m very sorry about your son. I had a loved one pass away and also had an online community speculate about their cause of death. It was incredibly heartbreaking, and I can’t imagine myself in your position. These people are such scumbags, truly.

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  13. I am going to assume you haven’t played all you cards. I know there’s going to be more, I feel like a kid just before Christmas.

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  14. After reading these transcripts, (thanks Sally, your tolerance is waaay above mine!), it once again becomes very obvious how defensive and outright hate filled she is as she continues to act out on every perceived slight. Her defense, ‘I’m only human, I make mistakes’, is without any remorse, and again nothing more than another excuse for intentionally painfully hurting others. The vile part is that she has never slowed down or attempted to become a better person, and throughout all of this has only expanded and intensified her defenses, lies and hate.
    Reading through all of this and observing her behavior on these vids, it is crystal clear why CPS is staying involved and will probably continue for a very long time. Joe’s behavior and dependency is cited routinely , but Nicole is frankly unfit and she gets very defensive when her behavior reveals her depths of depravity. She goes to great lengths to try to hide what becomes increasingly more obvious to even casual observers now. She is revealed to be also very much a problem if not the bigger part of the reason CPS stays involved, imo, and she gets really riled up when it is shown (and she can’t delete or hide it under her sweet children pictures), as it was in the Al and Mr. Sneed vid. I bet smoke came out of her ears when Ron Sneed quoted the Ag man’s threat to Nicole if she ever called in another false report. That was priceless.
    It probably is better for the kids to have both Nicole and Joe away for the majority of the day.

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  15. So, by January 9th Nicole Naugler had incorporated herself as My Blessed Little Grooming Company, LLC. So why the big kerfuffle and the directed attack at my business? She is disingenuous to say the least.

    A simple fix and not the stuff of “extreme danger” and “destroying her business” that Nicole made it out to be to her very wide audience. All she has to do now is add that “MY” to her public presence (she seems to have already purchased a domain name with the “My”) to be in compliance with the law as regards truth in advertising, etc. All that Nicole Naugler created drama and her followers fell for it hook, line and sinker. I bet she was laughing her ass off at how easy they were to manipulate. While she had them all in a tizzy there she was quietly taking care of her “problem.” Where’s the big public post from Nicole about how easy it was to remedy the situation?

    Who thinks she used all that created drama for yet another soft fundraiser? If she did what do you think she will actually spend the donations on? To pay off her new CRV car or iPhone 8 plus? I wonder how many of her followers and donors can throw down $1000 or more for a fancy phone? You know, priorities. Lol.

    I wonder why she chose “My” and not “Our” for her “family” business. Doesn’t the work of Joe and the kids count for any credit?

    Maybe it has something to do with her claim to be the “overseer” of her husband and kids when it comes to both the “Blessed Little Homestead” and “My Blessed Little Grooming Company” which I find rather telling. The “overseer” is certainly a word I find to be used only in certain contexts such as overseeing workers in the poor house, prison and forced or slave labor. It’s a word most business people avoid because of negative historical connotations.

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  16. Sally, I hate knowing the horrible garbage they have spewed at you. But I also love the way you write. You are eloquent and obviously very intelligent. It’s probably correct to assume that the N’s are jealous of you and a lot of others. I will support us “trolls” always, because we stand for a good cause, the children. I’ve not commented before, but I read every blog. You are an amazing lady! I wish you the best!

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  17. I should do an analysis of her writing and her other writing (charles) because they are written in almost identical voice and style. One year, I had this rather cleaver little fraternity boy who had written one way in class and his first paper was written in an entirely different voice and style so I called him to my office and he said, yeah, yeah, that’s my writing. I questioned him on his research and he said, well, you see, it’s my paper cause I paid my friend’s girlfriend to write it. NicNaug and Chucky have the exact same structures, errors, and vocabulary. It’s interesting when one learns a new vocabulary word (usually one NicNaug learns here) they both use the hell out of that word. A couple of weeks ago, she learned the word conundrum and has used the fuck out of it since. Bless her heart. She likes learning but doesn’t give a shit if her kids are learning.

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  18. Lisa, you are totally spot on imo.

    As for My vs Our, I would have thought “Our” would be more inclusive and much more friendly. My Blessed Little Grooming Company LLC sounds almost like a demanding two year old. You know, mime, mine, mine.

    Our Blessed Little Grooming Company LLC, sounds like a family business that is open and giving.

    Could she have chosen The Blessed Little Grooming Company LLC?

    Our Family’s Blessed Little Grooming Company LLC

    Our Friends Blessed Little Grooming Company LLC

    Your Blessed Little Grooming Company LLC

    A sushi place near us named their place Sushi R us. Toys R us successfully sued them and they were forced to change their name.

    After 2011 “let’s roll” was denied trademark status. It was a big story here as the man was from here.

    Could Lisa sue that the name is too close to her business name and would cause confusion for her clients?

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  19. Could she have chosen The Blessed Little Grooming Company LLC?

    No.

    Could Lisa sue that the name is too close to her business name and would cause confusion for her clients?

    Possibly, but probably not worth the effort. Nicole is a two-bit dog groomer in Radcliff, KY. Nobody gives a damn about her, really.

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  20. “People say, oh, well, your kids are sheltered, you need to expose them to the world, and then say oh, your kids are exposed to too much.” (Nicole)

    Sheltered? No. They are ISOLATED!

    There is a vast difference between “the world” and the “world wide web”, Nicole! To expose children to the latter and not the former, is fucking insane. A different kind of control and isolation.

    The poor lads must be inordinately naive. And fearful! I see it in their eyes when Nicole films them briefly – they are scared of something – and I don’t think its the trolls! …I think they emotionally abused – and often – going on many years now.

    Flowers in the Attic? No, fuck that. This garbage-fire is more like, Weeds in the Shed!

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  21. Why would you let a 14 year old read a blog that you are such a bitch on? Shouldn’t they be reading actual books or something? What is this high school gossip train time at the shitstead?

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  22. If she is screaming so much about child trafficking and cps then why promote your kids online in photos for the world to see??

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  23. Now would her changing the name absolve her of any responsibility for not filing annual report on time under the old name?

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  24. Now would her changing the name absolve her of any responsibility for not filing annual report on time under the old name?

    There is no penalty for not filing the annual report. She simply lost the name, and had to start all over. It cost her some money, quite a bit more than if she had simply kept up her paperwork. Now, if she is not collecting sales tax on the sales of tangible items (like bows), well, that’s another story.

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  25. I feel if you believed you are in a pitched battle for your very livelihood against “psycho stalkers” wouldn’t you think you’d keep your knives sharp and your powder dry? Meaning I would be crosssing every “T” and dotting every “I” when it came to my life and my business. With everything she’s posted and said online about doing the bare minimum she’s lucky if she doesn’t get an audit from the state department of revenue or an IRS audit or worse. It’s just a continual train wreck of poor decisions, after bull crap, after delusional excuses.

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