To refresh your memory, there is this.

[6:51 on Youtube video]

[kids chattering in background]

Joe: Have a seat right now. I have to tell you what’s going on.

[kids background noise]

Joe: Okay, listen. The state has kidnapped Jacob and [second oldest son’s name]. They’ve arrested Mom, okay, and they will be kidnapping you tomorrow morning. If I don’t bring you down to the sheriff’s office by ten o’clock tomorrow morning, they will put FELONY CHARGES out on me. And Mom.

So this is what’s gonna happen. Tomorrow morning, I’m going down to the sheriff’s office and I’m just gonna have to send you guys to the state for a while, until we can get you guys back.

Okay? That’s just what’s gonna happen, and there’s nothing I can do about it. (inaudible) force of a gun to dictate this. You guys understand why we live the way we live? You guys understand?

Okay, while you’re with them, you say nothing. You understand? Don’t consent, and nothing.

Child’s voice: What’s consent?

Joe: You don’t, you don’t agree with what they’re doing. Okay? You be reverent, you be decent, okay? All right? But. . . this is, this is crazy out of control. So, I have to drop you guys off at ten o’clock tomorrow. You will not be living with us for I don’t know how long.

It is not hard to see what is wrong with this.  Any parent worth the name would know what is wrong with this.

Except Nicole Naugler, who is totally oblivious.


It is not “harsh” in Nicole’s world to coldly inform a small child that the police are going to kidnap him.  This was said to small children who have spent their entire lives being told that the police are people to fear, that they will shoot you dead, that CPS is evil.

They’ve been interrogated and threatened by CPS before.

Yeah, Nicole, we know.  According to Joe, 20 times. Not so many, according to you.  But still, more often than most people.  And I’m sure they have been told how horrible and evil CPS is almost daily for years.

This is tantamount to telling a small child who is afraid of the boogeymen and the dark that he has to go spend an indefinite length of time in a dark place with several boogeymen  and nobody is going to help him.

But poor Joe. He couldn’t help it. He was just distraught and therefore he emotionally abused his own children and who can blame him?


. . . they have yet to be able to justify seizure.

Nicole, they justified seizure when they went to the court and the judge issued a removal order, you dumb twit. That day.  You just don’t agree because of your “rights.”

You know, if this was really true, why in the hell are you bothering with all the “I’m gonna sue people for harassment” bullshit?  Why don’t you put all your effort and time into suing the state?  If you’re right, you might actually get a very large payoff. Do it.  Put your money where your very large mouth is.

People have won suits like that before, you know, for wrongful arrest and stuff.  Do it, Nicole.

I dare you.

Prove us all wrong. Think how you’ll be able to gloat.  Just do it.