Typhoid and Other Bad Things

typhoid

This is the reason we have sanitation laws.

I am appalled at the comments on Nicole’s page from her obviously uneducated, brain-dead followers.

campers

No.  No, they don’t.  “Campers” do not.

As I recounted in detail, a “composting toilet” is not what we are talking about here.  If you are confused about that, please go read the link.

environmentalists

“Composting” is highly encouraged.  Half-ass composting of human waste managed by small children is not.  Learn the difference.

And of course, Nicole and Joe are being persecuted because they “ticked off somebody in a high place.”

No, they are being held to account to follow all the laws of the society they live in.  If they don’t like that, they are free to move.

outhouse

The funny thing is that Layla is so god damned dumb that she doesn’t understand, after all this conversation, that the Nauglers do not now and never have had an outhouse.

They are dumping raw human sewage on the ground.

Let me say it again.

Joe and Nicole Naugler and their 11 children are dumping raw human sewage on the ground and have been doing so for about three years.

dont care

This is the reason that Ellen clearly does not have any sort of degree in public health, nor is she in charge of anything to do with it.

Animal shit is not the same as human shit.

And there are actually problems at times with improperly managed animal shit.  Anybody remember anything about salmonella poisoning and lettuce?

jesus

Jesus.

The one who is stupid is Jasmine.

silly humans

Courtney doesn’t seem to understand anything about this.  Silly Courtney.

Children are hauling buckets of raw sewage to a supposed “compost bin” which we never ever get to see because freedom.  Not exposed?  You gotta be kidding. What “high temperatures”?  The burden is on Nicole and Joe to prove “high temperatures.”

What are they doing with the contents of the buckets?

This is probably what you came here to find out about.

A quick note. This blog is not Joe and Nicole Naugler’s Blog. This blog was created to refute and dispel the claims they make, to elucidate their methodology, and to allow thinking people the opportunity to see the truth and make their own decisions.

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Been watching the news lately? Here’s the truth.

The first article

The second

And here is the third article with the real truth.

The third

You read these and make up your own mind.

“The Nefarious Please”

Update

This comment was posted in response to the third article (above). It was posted on March 6th.
qq qqqPretty much sums it up.

 

The Toilet, Take Two

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First off, I really doubt that people wanted just photos of your little poopy shack, Nicole. What they were attempting to show, at least in part, was just how close to the road the Blessed Little Garden Shed is. You know, the whole wilderness thing?

Here’s the photo.

photo interior

Delightful, isn’t it?

This is not a “composting toilet.”

We have been all over this already.

Nicole just thinks if she keeps asserting stuff, it will be true.  Just keep calling it a “composting toilet,” and people will buy it. And of course, some of them have only their lizard brains, so they do buy it.

DIY

No.  Just no.  There is a tremendous, very large difference between a real composting toilet and white buckets in a makeshift not-going-to-last-very-long enclosure.  The real composting toilets actually compost the excrement in their base.  They operate off electricity (either grid-powered, or solar-powered).  They heat the waste to destroy pathogens.

And pathogens are the reason this matters, both to those of us on the internet watching this disaster unfold, and to the local health department.

Ever hear about cholera? You might not have, except maybe in historical novels or stories about third-world countries, because it’s rare in the US. Only one case in 2015 reported.

It’s deadly.  And it is spread by water and food contaminated with fecal matter.  In the developing world, epidemics still occur every year.  People in Haiti died in as little as two hours after exhibiting symptoms in an outbreak several years ago.

The reason that it is rare in the US (and other developed nations) is that we don’t typically do what the Nauglers are doing.  We dispose of human waste in a way that protects us from contaminated water.  If I were a neighbor of the Naugler family, I would be at the health department daily complaining loudly.  The next-door neighbor does not have a well, and that’s probably a good thing, since the risk of contamination would be very high.

I have never been very interested in seeing photos of the Blessed Poop House. I understand the process involved in shitting into a bucket.

What I am interested in is what they do with the bucket when it’s full.

Nicole just does a little hand wave and says that somebody (translation: kid) lugs that bucket of shit (do you know how heavy that would be?) 100 yards away (the length of a football field) and dumps it on this lovely compost pile.  Seriously.

humanure handbookSee?  She just casually says, “It’s composting.”  And then somebody posts a link to The Humanure Handbook, only I do not believe Nicole or anyone else there has ever read the damn thing.  I have.

The compost has to be very carefully layered and monitored.  It must reach a certain temperature and stay there for a certain length of time.  Or alternatively, it has to compost for a year or more.  And during that year, it has to be contained.   You don’t just dump shit in a big pile.

There is a reason why diseases like cholera are practically non-existent in the US and cause hundreds of thousands of deaths world-wide in less developed countries.  If you could just dump the shit in a big pile and forget it because “it’s composting” and this is so easy to do because YouTube, don’t you think they’d do this in those developing countries and save their own lives?

sink nearby

And they have a sink nearby.  With no running water.  They do not have running water.

Stacy is the one who is smart.  It’s not about being “paranoid about germs.”  It’s about basic sanitation. Very, very basic sanitation. The kind of sanitation you teach to toddlers.

later

We have plans.

Of course you do.

UPDATE

Click here for the latest update on their “composting toilet”

Perhaps they should have hastened their plans to prevent their fecal matter, toilet paper, and other refuse from washing over onto the neighbor’s property. Still believe they have a composting toilet?

Updated by the “Nefarious Please”

Outhouse

outhouse

Oh, wow. This is tremendously good news.  Maybe.

The link is to an article about outhouses.

Not pooping in white buckets disguised as a phony “composting toilet.”

A real, honest-to-God outhouse. With a hole.

Let’s talk about the safety issues first, and then we can get to making your outhouse site as pleasing as possible. First, the depth of the hole you dig is very important. The hole needs to be at least six feet deep, and not just to ensure a long-lasting site.

Studies on tapeworms show that they can move about five feet through soil, in any direction.  This means that if your hole is only five feet deep, then the tapeworms can work their way to the surface where they can be easily contracted by pets and people.

See?  A real hole.  A nice deep one.

I am almost excited about this.  One of the things that bothers me most about the Naugler situation is their obvious and ongoing lack of basic sanitation.

Are they gonna dig a hole?

There are two basic reasons that I can think of that people post links to their Facebook pages, beyond just “I think this is interesting/informative/cute and I wanted to share it with you.”

One is because you run into an article or link and you don’t have time to really look at it or read it, so you share it to your wall so you can find it later. Recipes, anyone?  Cat videos?

So maybe Nicole is gonna actually read this article and then she’ll know all about holes and maybe supervise the digging of one.

Maybe?

Please?

Or maybe she wants everyone to think that they really do have a proper outhouse and see, here’s an article on how to maintain one, so quit talking about the white buckets.

Please tell me that’s not it.