This is old stuff, but interesting. I’ve been sitting on this for months, partly due to how complicated it is to explain, and partly due to the fact that I didn’t want to let the source of some of the images know that I had these images or what they contained, in hopes that there would be more of them coming. [Don’t bother to clean house now. I already have everything in a nice neat file.]
This is just a sample. For anyone who is just joining us (good luck, this is a rabbit hole), first there was the “Truth Seeking” Facebook page started by Beth Murschell in the spring of 2014. It was an effort to counteract against Cathy Harris’ “Truth Seeking Graduates of Bob Jones” page.
Almost immediately, “Truth Seeking 2nd Edition” was launched, mostly in an effort to keep any discussion or “survivor wars” off the original TSG and also to provide them with anonymity so they could fire shots without any danger being shot at themselves. The whole damn thing was a cesspool of people hiding behind moderator labels and fake profiles.
What followed is what I fondly remember as The Summer of Hell. Summer around here is always busy, and that summer was no exception, only it was augmented by having to fight this war every single day. All in all, I think that Cathy, Camille and the Court started no less than 10 or 12 pages in an effort to shut down this website.
And all during that time, we were told repeatedly that Cathy didn’t know shit about any of it. She didn’t start any pages. She didn’t even know about pages. Page? What page? Of course, her story of how she found out about said page changed over time. Above, as you can see, she found out because someone tagged her in their post. But she forgot she said that, and concocted a silly story about how she was busy committing suicide and Camille called her at the last minute before she could pull the trigger and told her about the page and that saved her life. But I digress. . .
The main thing is that they kept denying that Camille and Dan were part of this. Oh, they commented, but they were not administrators. They didn’t know who was running all those pages, but it certainly wasn’t them. The only one who was more-or-less honest about it all was Linda Fossen, who readily admitted she started the first Manhater page (“The Truth about the Manipuhaters” – it was such a stupid title that I shortened it to something more appropriate).
But even Maytag taunted us.
What they were all doing was hiding. Linda became the “face” of the pages, and the others just came out and threw darts from their safe place. None of us knew who we were talking to (which is one of the reasons I got off Facebook and started this website). It was a very different scenario than we have here on this blog. Yes, people here use screen names, but everyone knows who the moderator is: me. So if something is said that is shitty here, I am around to control the situation to the best of my ability. Nobody is going to be doxxed, or stalked, or screamed at for expressing an opinion even if I don’t agree with them. It was the exact opposite situation with these FB pages. The commenters were generally known, but the moderators were anonymous.
Well, anonymous for a while.
At one point, Facebook shut down the original Manhater page, and they responded by putting up eight of them, all in the same day (basically shooting Mark Zuckerberg a bird), with variations on the spelling of the title.
We, of course, began to see patterns in the writing, though, from the various administrators.
Read through this exchange, where James first addresses the admin as “Linda,” and then is told he got it wrong. Go back and just read the administrator’s comments. Who does it sound like?
James makes the point:
I should have picked up on the “professorial” condescension dripping from most of these posts.
Of course. There is pretty much no doubt. Camille wrote that.
But wait. Camille was never, ever a moderator on any of those pages. It was all just beneath her. She wouldn’t ever do something like that, would she?
We knew it was Camille, but there was no way to prove it.
Then we found this. This screen shot comes from Dan Keller’s little stash of photos on Flickr that he used for his dreadful Storify page.
Compare it with the screen shot above. It’s the same conversation, but it’s different.
See what I mean? What is that bit in the middle on the second one (Dan’s copy)?
Well, here’s the deal. When you have a Facebook “like” page, and multiple administrators, even they get all confused about who said what. So Facebook adds that little “Commented on by XXXXX (?)” remark, but only the administrators can see it. “XXXXX”, of course, would be the name of the administrator who made the comment. It’s not visible to other folks.
This might be difficult to see. It’s very small. But notice that the administrator of Manhaters says that we can see that Cathy posted that piece on TSG. It says in teeny letters “Posted by Cathy Harris.” Visible only to an administrator. I add this only to show that the administrators know this is the case, so they don’t fire back with shit about how I don’t know what I am talking about.
What does this mean? It means that the person who grabbed that screen shot of the exchange with James was an administrator of the page. That’s either Dan or the person who gave him that screen shot if he didn’t get it himself.
But Dan whited out the name.
On that copy.
Dan was sloppy. Some of his screen shots were not properly whited out.
You were expecting to see “Camille Lewis,” weren’t you? Who in the hell is “Nathan Ulrich”?
Well, “Nathan Ulrich” is another of Camille’s fakes. Like “Brenda Bough.” The problem they were having was that Facebook kept shutting them down, and at one point, Camille and Linda both were put on Facebook time-out for several days. So, when they started the multiple Manhater pages (see the odd spelling of that page’s name), they put a different profile as the admin of each page, so if somebody got shut down or went to Facebook time-out, the other profiles would still function. This also allowed them to pretend that Camille and Dan never, ever, ever had anything to do with these pages other than commenting on them.
And there you have the administrators of the Manhater page, in addition to Maytag (who freely admitted it).
But what about Truth Seeking Graduates? We were told repeatedly that there were four administrators of TSG. Cathy, Camille, “Mark Moore,” and somebody called “Shadow.” We were all stupid if we didn’t know that.
Mark Moore is a sort of odd duck. I have no idea if he’s real or not. He was there, and only there (you never saw him comment or participate any place else except TSG) and then he was sort of. . . gone.
But who was “Shadow”?
Again, Dan provided us with this.
Somebody (not Dan, he uses white, probably Cathy) used cutesy stuff to block the name and put in “Shadow.” So we can’t know, can we? We can’t even find a clue, can we?
Well, yeah, we can.
This is little complicated, but I’ll try to explain it. Notice that paragraph written about each admin is the same except for the person’s first name. The length of the person’s first name affects the entire paragraph. “Camille” is the longest name. See how that pushes the word “Page” down to the second line. It’s not that way on the others.
And that leads me to the subject of type. In the old days, when we had typewriters, the letters each occupied the same amount of space. It’s called monospaced type. Typefonts that are monospaced give a typewriter-look.
The type you are reading right now is variable-width type. An “i” takes way less space than a “w”. You can easily see this if you look at the space between the quotation marks around each letter.
The font used in the screen shot above is variable-width. It is almost certainly Arial. I tested all this with several different common-on-the-web typefonts and the results were similar. Web browsers all tend to default to just a few fonts that are pretty much universally available on the average computer. Keep that in mind.
Notice the word I’ve highlighted. It’s the first word that shows in the edited “Shadow” entry, so it’s the one we’re going to focus on. It’s in a slightly different place on each one, isn’t it? That’s because each first name has a different number and width of letters. “Camille” is the longest, so the word “including” is pushed to the right.
And this is what happens if you draw a perfectly straight line positioned just to the left of the “including” in “Shadow’s” entry. It is quite clearly way over to the left from all the others. Putting them in order of length, we have the longest being Camille, then Cathy, then Mark, and then “Shadow.”
What does this mean?
It means that “Shadow” has a very short first name.
Shorter than “Mark.”
So what name could it be? Is it possible that it’s a four-letter name with narrow letters, like this?
Well, perhaps, except that if you look closely at the red line, the distance is not that great between Mark’s “including” and Shadow’s “including.” It’s probably not “Bill.”
It’s probably a three-letter name. And who has a three-letter name? Who would be a likely candidate for “Shadow? It’s not just the name-length, it’s also who might be given administrative privileges?
Like, who has been given those privileges before on other pages?
With three letters in his name.
Dan, er. . . “Shadow,” who is the fool again?