Special DNA

Oh, how neat.  Nicole is interested in our thoughts about this.

She’s interested in our thoughts about the irrational belief that your DNA is special. . .

The irrational belief that you have special DNA, that your DNA is more valuable than other peoples’ DNA, and that your DNA means that your offspring are smarter, cuter, better, more valuable, amazing, intelligent, happy, well-rounded, kind, and of course the world needs many, many copies of your DNA because of its superior value.

That irrational belief.

These are just two examples. Every time Joe gets on camera or on a podcast, he blathers on about this, about how superior and fabulous his children are.

. . .my children. . . they don’t suffer from a lot of those things that other people suffer from with anxiety and depression and things. . .

. . . children are amazing. Uh, they’re very well-spoken, very well-mannered, very intelligent, they’re articulate, they couldn’t say enough words to describe how awesome we are. . .

See what I mean?  People just run out of words when they have to describe the marvelous DNA that Joe and Nicole Naugler have given to their kids.

This is my favorite, though.


That is how I would describe our bull calves. This is how we talk about them.  Seriously.  We talk about livestock like this.  We breed and raise registered Jersey cattle. Livestock.

We look them over, those guys above, and we say, “I like the looks of that guy on the far right.  He’s got lots of lean muscle and he’s extremely energetic and active. He’s developing nicely.”

When we have Frances bred, we choose a sire carefully. They look something like this. We make a choice based on how well we think his DNA will match up with Frances’ DNA.

This is the guy chosen as the sire of the Naugler livestock.

And that is actually a good photo of him, mostly because he’s much younger there and a good many pounds lighter.


Isn’t he just so impressive?

The dam and the sire.  There they are.

Amazing, aren’t they?

We need more of their DNA floating about, don’t we? I say, breed ’em.  Lots of them.

Oh wait. They already did. Here’s the whole herd.




29 thoughts on “Special DNA”

  1. Traveled the country? Ive traveled to Jamaica, Cancun, Bermuda, Alaska, St Thomas, St Maarten, All of these were with my kids except 2.
    Whhop de doo, you did a Clark Griswald vacay.


  2. They’re “special” alright. Why do the worst people in the world always go on about how fantastic everything they do is? I’m of the mind if you have to tell me how smart/kind/interesting/exceptional you are, you’re likely none of the former. Same if you tell me how honest you are. I immediately think you’re lying all the time. I guess I have to add “arrogant” to my “stupid asshole” comment on another post. Arrogant and stupid assholes. Yeah, that fits. (And my word, I didn’t realize how big Jabba is! It’s a pure, all over chub. What the hell is that guy eating? Everything?)


  3. The best Joe that can muster is that the children are growing up “nicely and averagely”?

    Ugh, I don’t want to hear that my children are “nice”. Nice is a lame duck descriptor when there is nothing else to say. I love to hear that a child is curious, passionate, engaged, determined, self-confident, ambitious, altruistic, conscious. Nice is a byproduct. We all know what describing a woman as “having a nice face” means. It’s the last resort in coming up with something complimentary so as not to seem unkind.

    As to “averagely”….how “nice” to have the bar set so low.
    “It is better to shoot for the stars and miss than aim at the gutter and hit it.”


  4. He does talk about his children as if he were listing them in an ad – I cringed when he mentioned, “lean muscle”. But what we cant visibly see, nor can Joe, is their DNA. And seeing as how it came from that disgusting-fuck of a homo erectus, they each have a 50% chance of having inherited his low IQ, his low ambition, and/or his tendency toward problem-behavior.

    …Oh, but I also cringe because I know Nicole will read this and scream, “You fucking Bitch!” into the abyss of the shed, with a heated passion reserved only for Sally – that is, before she subsequently informs all her children (whether they want to hear it or not) that the cunt blogger and her trolls are making fun of each and every one of them, again. #unschoollife #nauglershowandtell #thatswhythekidswearheadphones


  5. Wait – the only reason the kids “have traveled across country”, is because of their parents proclivity for burning bridges, and the desperate effort to find a state with the most lax “homeschool” requirements, least-prone to cps intervention! Those kids have never traveled without the impending burden of having to find a place to live.


  6. “Everyone says I have great kids. The best, everyone says so.
    I’ve heard that people are saying that my kids are better than everyone else’s kids, bigly.”

    And no, the Naugler children will likely never own a MacDonalds, or anything else. Unless they manage to escape and get an education, they will end up being homesteading grifters like their parents.

    And Joe, hahaha hahahahahahhaha. That’s all I have.


  7. Two thoughts:

    1 – if the kids are so well rounded, intelligent, and smart (paraphrasing Joe here) then why did they drop all social activities in the years before the CPS intervention due to “bullying”? I thought everyone in real life loves and supports their family?

    2 – is Joe a closeted homophobe? He makes awful disparaging comments about women. He has a major man crush on Al. He has no self respect. When viewed through the lens that he’s a self-loathing homosexual, I think a lot of his behavior makes more sense. Including his absolute need to be seen as a super stock breeder.


  8. Free Thought Project propaganda through memes relies on the ignorance of people, imo, and Nicole is their perfect target audience. She spreads the ignorance every chance she gets and thinks she is both a social justice warrior and ‘all that” when she succumbs to and then shares their often false and almost always overly simplistic memes, imo.

    There is a significant difference between someone who thinks they are special, entitled or superior due to their race line and someone who thinks and gets others to others to think is special or entitled due to their bloodlines, but that is neither here nor there.

    In America we threw off the yoke of the rule of monarchs in a little thing called the revolutionary war. We rejected the idea that someone had the “divine right of kings” to rule over us due to their bloodlines or some special dispensation from their gods. We created an independent country based on the premise that “all men are created equal.” While initially the premise was pretty much limited to white men who owned land it has evolved over time to the premise that all women/men/etc, regardless of race, creed, color, gender, religious beliefs, no religious beliefs or sexual preferences are created equal. All are entitled to equal rights under the law and equal oppportunity. We overthrew these notions of superiority based on nothing more than the “circumstance of birth” and we will do it again if necessary.


  9. Once at a dog show some friends and I were talking (jokingly) about how well bred our dogs were but our children were not. It was because one of his kids had genetic issue and needed surgery to correct it. We laughed because we all understand the balance of good and bad traits that carry in every breeding, and usually the bad carries first. That is why some bloodlines are sought after and some are avoided.
    When I got my dog monster I was able to trace is pedigree all the way back to the origional two dogs that came with their owner to America. I can’t trace my own family tree any further then my fathers name on his side.
    Humans in general all think we are special, we tend to focuse on attraction and disregard everything else. Most of the time we are lucky, but sometimes things go wrong, either way when we look at our children we often say he has your this or that, he acts just like his dad, these are traits that carried through.
    When we look at this family’s parents, what are we seeing? We see a bunch of kids who may or may not be dealing with a white bucket load of mental and physical health issues.
    I would in no way consider these good breeding.


  10. Running from authority, travelling the world, potato potahto. Those of us who live averagely would never understand.


  11. he’s a self-loathing homosexual,

    He’s not homophobic enough. I think he’s simply a man who thinks masculinity is shown by how often he can impregnate somebody, and he has shown that he really doesn’t care who the somebody is. If the sperm recipient will support him, so much the better.

    I’ve met men like him before. The Fundy Church From Hell had its full quota.


  12. PS – Own a McDonald’s Nicole??? Your homestead pride and joy couldn’t even get his butt out of bed to work at a McDonald’s. Too taxing for the fellow? The lawn gig lasted even less time, what with running to the hospital for not staying hydrated. Good thing you taught him how to handle all of his health and medical concerns at home. I hope the young man stays employed, but he doesn’t exactly have a stellar track record. He has no marketable skills or education. At some point, people will look at his uneducated, unreliable background and not even give him a chance. That is what happens when you hobble your kids to your impoverished wagon.


  13. 5 hrs
    Nicole C. Naugler: I have several friends who have spent hundreds of dollars per child on pens and pencils and crayons and paper and binders etc.

    Oh for fuck’s sake. THIS is why no one takes anything Nicole says seriously.

    If several of her friends are spending hundredsper child on this crap….they’re stupider than Nicole is, which is to say, dumber than a box of rocks…and not the nice shiny ones.

    Every year the bigger department store chains have the back to school supply sales where you can pick all this shit up for fifty cents to a couple of bucks. If you’re spending over $20 per kid, you have a screw loose.

    One year, I adopted an inner city classroom and bought every kid in it

    * a 24 pack of Crayola Crayons
    * a 10 pack of Crayola Markers
    * a pack of lined paper
    * a four pack of glue sticks
    * a ten pack of #2 pencils

    Cost me $3.50 per child at Back to School sales. Every kid in the class got these things, plus a giant hand sanitizer and box of Kleenex for the classroom….for under $100.

    Can you spend a couple hundred dollars on a couple new pair of jeans, some new sneakers, a new sturdy backpack, new socks and underwear, a new jacket, and a couple of new outfits for Back To School? Sure you can….because kids grow and need new shit. Kids are expensive and you provide for them. It’s part of parenting.

    If money is tight…can you get away with buying some new used things from the thrift store? Sure. Hell, maybe you’d just rather put $200 in the kid’s college savings account if he doesn’t mind a thrift store jacket and jeans.

    But no, Nicole…people do NOT spend $200 on pens and crayons the evil teachers force them to buy.

    Also….Crayons last a lot longer when you teach kids to take care of them and put them in a box or zip lock when they’re done coloring. They’ll get lost if you put them in your boots outside, and God knows they could never be found again in all that trash. Why sabotage a kid who so clearly loves his crayons? Here’s a money saving tip…..Why not help teach him to take care of his things?


  14. Nicole’s jumper writes ‘I can’t wait for that ahh haa moment when these douchebahs kids are,working for the Naugler kids.’ (copied as written)

    Nicole replies ‘I don’t think my children will ever own a McDonalds ;)’

    I don’t think so either. Was this a diss of people who work at McDonald’s? Didn’t her son and his girlfriend work there until recently?

    I think Joe even worked in fast food for a short time until he quit or got fired.

    There’s no shame in having a job, any job. There is shame in sitting on your ass and smoking weed all the livelong day.


  15. I want to be very careful in what I say as I have known those kids and the last thing I want to do is to insult them or diminish their future chances any further than their parents are doing. Yes, the kids are intelligent but not in any remarkable way. They are certainly no more demonstrably intelligent than their peers who went to public schools. Some of the kids were well behaved. Others really did act like they were feral. Some were downright angry all the time. The kids, when I knew them, had a really hard time interacting with their peers, as in hardly any interaction. They interacted with each other but really shut down when they were expected to interact with other kids or adults. When I knew those kids, most of their peers had traveled the country far more than those kids had. Heck some of those kids had lived in other countries and were demonstrably more well rounded.

    As far as the livestock-ish description Joe gave of his kids, it means his kids make all of the mechanics of that wretched life move and they are likely really hungry doing it. Joe and Nicole are trying to say that they have exceptional anti-statist kids who are better than everyone else’s more traditionally educated kids. And it is untrue. There is nothing remarkably great about the Naugler kids. If anything, when you do interact with the kids, it can be disturbing. Sorry, but that’s my experience with them.

    If Joe and Nicole want to go on about their glorious double helixi being expressed in their kids, sorry, the DNA just isn’t that glorious. The kids are average with badly diminished opportunities to learn, experience and express any of the potential they do have. Little note here to Joe and Nicole–a lot of people get the heck away from places where they can’t express their potential or pursue their interests. Most of those kinds of places are nowhere near as awful a situation as your kids are in with two parents determined to make it as difficult for their kids as possible in the future. And running a facebook page detailing the processs as well. Sally is no tabloid blogger. Nicole, you are the real tabloid blogger and the National Enquirer has nothing that compares to the hot mess of your life and Joe’s life.


  16. I couldn’t help it.
    I laughed when Nicole posted that meme with the Queen and her family’s DNA versus a bunch of hick “muh rights” assholes looking to appear better by finding something negative to adhere to and scream about.

    In the not so distant past, If Nicole or Joe had somehow shown up in the Royal Family (?) they would have been locked in the attic and fed through a hole in the wall…
    Their DNA would have not made it past that door.
    However, some like the Adult Nauglers did inherit “Royal” positions, and became tyrants and the type of ruler you would not want to live under… ( envision Joe as the late in life version of Henry VIII., rotund, smelly leg ulcers, and killing off anyone who crossed him on a whim).
    Environment can take the DNA potential of a person and make or twist them.
    What ever good DNA that filtered down to the Naugler children is being twisted to the Naugler ideals.
    That is why there are so many of us concerned for their well being.

    On a different note… Did Nicole deliberately plant that white bucket at the beginning of her video of the cats playing outside?… Really? ?


  17. The traveling the country comment is interesting. What national parks have they gone? Have their children completed any junior ranger programs at the national parks? We haven’t travelled outside of the US, except for Canada. It’s not in the budget, I wish it was but it isn’t. That can be a reality of having a large family and making do on one income. It’s one of my major regrets. So we make do the best we can by truly exploring the US. We have lived in various states but I don’t consider that traveling. What we have done is camped all over. We found that we could visit historical sites, national parks and even big cities while camping. Much of that was done when our children were small and financially that was what we could pull. Now our travels are a little more luxurious. So what travel experiences have they had? Traveling is my favorite part of homeschooling. You can learn a lot about the history of the country by visiting the places where history happened.

    Heck the Nauglers couldn’t even bother to travel a couple hours to see the total eclipse. Trust me 96% was not good enough. I know because we travelled 1,800 miles to see it. Yes that is snarky but what those kids are receiving is not even adequate let alone average.


  18. I am not sure if this is the appropriate place to post this but ….”I’m interested in your thoughts” pops out at at me, and so here is where I am putting this.

    My thoughts for Joe and Nicole: They need to get right over themselves and concentrate on homesteading and the brood of children they are neglecting by the sheer lack of raising they apply to their children.

    I follow several blog, many of them about homesteading, and none that I read are even remotely like the Nauglers.

    I wanted to share this post I received today with all of you. This is a young couple with children. This is how it’s done right.

    Joe and Nicole should pay attention. Enjoy.


  19. Nicole C. Naugler: I have several friends who have spent hundreds of dollars per child on pens and pencils and crayons and paper and binders etc.

    Agree that Nicole is full of it. Although I only had one measly child, I still never spent “hundreds of dollars” on pens, pencils, paper and binders when getting organized for each school year. I may have spend more than a couple of hundred dollars total, for back to school supplies, new pair of shoes, new hoodie, some new clothes, plus the fees for my child to participate in a couple of sports (that’s where the real cost comes in).

    But like Sally said, if there is a parent out there spending hundreds of dollars on pens, pencils, papers and a few binders – they must be quite dim-witted. Or it is just a bunch of nonsense made up by Nicole.


  20. What we have done is camped all over.

    We only had one child and began traveling by camping. We went to the World’s Fair in Knoxville in 1982 on an itsy bitsy budget. We tent-camped in a cow pasture. It was great.

    We went to Maggie Valley on another camping trip and brought Nathan’s cousin with us. They were little guys.

    Finally, when Nate was about 8, we visited Washington DC and camped in a tent for the weekend. It rained. And it rained. And after a great day of sightseeing, we slogged back to our campground and I cooked dinner in the screen house we’d erected over the picnic table. I was standing in ankle deep water, looking at the travel trailers around me where I could see the flicker of TV screens. All I could think about was how those people were all dry and how wet I was.

    We ate dinner, and then made the decision to pack up and go home. It was about 10 p.m. when we headed out. We drove all night long, and got home early that Sunday morning. (Washington, DC is still an excellent vacation spot mostly because once you figure out the subway system and pay for that, everything worth seeing is pretty much free.)

    That Monday, we bought a very small used travel trailer, the first of many.

    There was one very memorable Thanksgiving where we packed up the trailer, and headed for the beach. We were the only people in the campground, right on the ocean. I brought along a small turkey breast, stove-top stuffing and everything else and made Thanksgiving dinner. And we walked the beach. It was too cold to swim, of course. Just wonderful. I highly recommend it. Then we went to the local fish market and bought fresh shrimp, brought them back to the trailer and boiled them.

    We’ve camped everywhere you can think of. The Grand Canyon, DisneyWorld (more than once), Lancaster, PA (Amish country), Yellowstone, San Diego, you name it. I think the only states we missed were New Hampshire and Maine. We have stayed in campgrounds, in rest areas, in various sorts of parking lots, from Walmart to churches, and just in small places alongside the road. We are experts at figuring out where to park for no money.


  21. Was this a diss of people who work at McDonald’s?

    It was. Her implication was that all her critics’ children would never rise any higher in the work force than to work at a fast food place.

    And Joe was fired before he even finished the training.


  22. But like Sally said,

    I think somebody else said that, but yeah. We homeschooled and bought curriculum and spent a few hundred dollars per year but not when he was in “real school.”


  23. Sally, after many rained out camping trips we invested in a nice big trailer. Whenever we pitch a tent it rains. One trip in DC was hell, it was at a state park near a battlefield. Another was while up in Shenandoah. Both trips involved throwing all our soaked gear into the vehicle and making our way to a hotel.

    Sounds like we’ve camped at a lot of the same places. The kids favorite so far was our trip to the Pacific Northwest. Camping outside of Seattle, then making our way down the Oregon coast. They are all at this point camped out, but I still love it. It really is a budget friendly way to travel. There is a campground in NYC. I would like to give it a try but everyone else in the family says no. We’ve visited NYC in hotels, so they don’t see the need to camp there.


  24. The only time I spent more than $100 was when the eldest child had to have a particular graphing calculator and it was a brand new model. At least it was used by my second child and then passed along to the school to be given to a kid who didn’t have one.

    Tax holidays for school supplies are handy. So is Goodwill, thrift and consignment stores. Ditto for the Kohl’s when they are trying to get rid of the last of something from the year before.

    If you keep items in a particular location, you often find that you do not have to purchase things year after year. But then again, neither of my kids felt compelled to store crayons in their boots.

    I’m a little surprised Joe didn’t discuss the superior phrenology of his children’s heads. It’s in keeping with discussing his children as though they are livestock. Did he note any whorls too?


  25. We just had our DNA done and I have to say my DNA is special. 23&me said so. I have a very rare maternal haplogroup H1m and I have a high percentage of Neanderthal. I am mostly Eureopean, but also have Asian & American Inidian in me. I’m learning a lot about DNA and my own genetics. I have two children who have PKD. Polycystic Kidney Disease is the number one genetic disease in the world. I am not a carrier of it, but my husband is. I carry the gene for PMM2-CDG, a rare genetic disease where I could have given this disease to my children. Since they lived, they don’t have it, but 1 of my kids carry the gene and 2 of my nieces carry it as well.
    So, yes I’m special. Lol!

    I wonder if Nicole understands that this self imposed poverty that she places on her family is a form of abuse that will have life long lasting impressions on her children. I say that her poverty is self imposed because by her own choice she has chosen not to use family planning and her husband refuses to work.
    Children who are raised in poverty are affected by the worry of not having food, shelter, even gas in a car. She is also denying them a education which can lift her children out of poverty. It’s odd that she doesn’t yearn for her children to have a better life than she did. There is no way with just her working can she support her family. When you add all the people, animals, a business into the mix, the money involved to support a viable operation / undertaking, that is her family and home, is not possible on her alone. She says she pays her kids. Does she pay the required minimum wage? I doubt it. She will post to her fans that yes, she is doing just fine without Joe working. Those poor kids. I sure hope that they don’t grow to think of themselves as burdens, another mouth to feed.


  26. I buy school supplies in bulk each year for our kids. I homeschool as well, so we end up buying books for new grade levels. Right now I have grades 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 9, 10 covered because the books can be used by the next kid. I update or add books as necessary, but ultimately history is history, science is science….and so on and so forth. Yes, its expensive to buy all those books; I can say without hesitation that it is worth it a million times over. This year’s curricula for kids was around 1k (I use consumables for Preschool/Kindergarten rather than photocopying a workbook).

    We’re also joining a homeschool co-op that has classes each Friday in a variety of subjects. I imagine that will cost us maybe a couple hundred for the school year for all 7 kids to attend classes. I researched a great deal to find a co-op that wasn’t offering all Protestant Christian based classes. Although we are Christians, I don’t think our educational approach should be from a Christian perspective.

    You can spend as much or as little as you want to when sending a child to public or private school. You can theoretically homeschool children free using libraries and various resources. I personally think a middle approach is best. Spend as much as you need to in order to give your children the best possible education. That doesn’t mean that you buy the cheap crayons that barely mark paper (I really hate those!) but it doesn’t mean that you have to buy the organic beeswax crayons at $10 for a package of 6 either. It also means that if your child needs a graphing calculator you buy them the fucking graphing calculator with a smile, and make damn sure that it is well taken care of so your other kids can use it in the future. Some things really are worth the price. Further, it means that if your child is struggling with a subject (private school, public school, or homeschool) and you can’t help them; you find a tutor and get them the help they need rather than watch them struggle.


  27. “Children who are raised in poverty are affected by the worry of not having food, shelter, even gas in a car.”
    I still don’t know how to actually quote someone on here. When I was in 8th grade a young lady joined our grade. She grew up in severe poverty, her and her brothers were thin and scraggly looking. All were very nice folks though. Every day her mom would pick her up for lunch, every single day. Many years later I dated a friend of her brother, they lived together which eventually I moved in too. Her brother told me how awful their childhood was. Know why her mom picked her up for lunch? She would BITE you if you got near her plate. Her brother said they would literally fight over food. Years later when her parents got good paying jobs, 3 out of the 4 kids became obese. They, to this day, deal with serious issues that resulted from living in poverty.


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