She Calls This Cooking

Nicole finally came out and said that this mess is not a rocket stove. Well, duh.  We’ve known that.

Here are some pictures on Pinterest of DIY rocket stoves.

This, of course, doesn’t even slightly resemble those.  This is just Cindy Cinderblock and her siblings piled up haphazardly around a fire with a makeshift grate, with old ash piled up.

Somehow, I think, this is supposed to look all self-sufficienty and homesteady and back-to-naturey.

But what in the hell do they cook on that?

Well, this.

I showed this photo to Dave.  He is probably the easiest-going man on earth when it comes to food.  If it’s edible, he’ll pretty much eat it.  He just doesn’t complain. He’s not picky.

But his comment was this.

That looks like something we’d feed to the pigs but I wouldn’t let them lick the pan.  They have never cleaned that cast-iron pan, ever.

Really?  What am I missing here?  All you gotta do to cook like that is get a few cinderblocks and have a toddler stack them, light a fire and then put an old grate over it. Finding a cast-iron skillet in that condition will, I admit, be pretty hard to do.  Try the local dump.

Then they had a little discussion about sun ovens, which is actually something the Nauglers could use.

Here’s my Sun Oven.  And the pan of brownies in the windowsill came right out of it.  They work beautifully, but the DIY ones pretty much suck. I checked into it before buying mine because they’re sort of pricey. There’s a good reason for that. They have to be made correctly or they simply don’t build up enough heat to do the job.  The homemade ones also weigh a whole lot, while my little Sun Oven is very light.

Most of the people who successfully make solar ovens that actually work end up spending almost as much money as they would have spent if they just bought a Sun Oven. So that’s what I did.  I’ve had mine for 9 years and it doesn’t appear that it will ever wear out.

Factor in living in Kentucky where long blocks of cloudless hours are sometimes hard to find, and it takes a bit of practice to learn to use one. To get it to really heat up, you have to pay attention and go out and turn it to face the sun periodically.

The YouTube videos that show the little cheap ones  are used in Africa not Kentucky.

I have baked in mine, as you can see, including bread.  It’s nice on a hot summer day to not have to heat up the kitchen. It bakes lovely potatoes and of course, stews and soups are similar to what you’d do in a slow cooker.

 

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56 thoughts on “She Calls This Cooking”

  1. I mean….how the FUCK do you get the food out of that pan???
    If they use oven mitts…are they full body??

    What the actual FUCK are you thinking??

    Funny story

    I made a troll yesterday…..ok ok, i had to remake AL because he kept falling over…so i ripped his head off pulled off his legs and arms…disposed of his body and proceeded to spend the day making the most GOD AWFUL atrocity…and the whole time i was doing it I was thinking…omg…this is so GREAT…it took me all FUCKING DAY…but i never realized it was the worst thing EVER until i took a picture and sent it to Al…then there was a dramatic pause….and all i got was a ….dafuk?

    I swear Nicole hypnotized me with all the memes she has been posting and I was looking through Naugler colored glasses (which are filmy)…I think maybe this is how she views her life…like i did with”Atrocious Al” …its SO GREAT…but take another look..

    good lawd woman I know how you feel now, but do what i did….a do over

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  2. From the BLH page…..that is firewood not rocket stove wood! WTH is the difference? Is there a Rocket Stove Wood tree that the wood comes from????

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  3. I cook with cast iron pans only. That, right there, is a shit ton of nasty build up. Nichole, there is a difference between “seasoned” cast iron and that built up crude. It’s pitted even…ish. You mention going to the dump for a cast iron pan and I laughed out loud because my old neighbor has grabbed me a few from the dump. I strip and reseason them (kind of a hobby of mine). I also lead test them, just in case. They are all so beautiful now. I have a huge cauldron too! I haven’t decided what I’m going to do with it yet.

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  4. I’ve spent 2 solid summers of my life working at a canoe tripping camp and cooking over a fire with a grate. I can’t really say it was like the one in the picture, because it was backwoods camping. Most of the fire pits were built with actual local rocks,but all did include a grate. They weren’t as high as the picture above, because why would you want to stack up a huge amount of wood like that and have high flames climbing the pan while cooking? The ashes also weren’t built up insanely like that in any of the fire pits I used.

    It was fun figuring out cooking that way as 20ish year olds who could mostly barely cook using conventional stoves, but we learned. We didn’t use cast iron because of the weight, but the pots we used were totally blackened on the outside from years of over fire cooking. There was no getting that charcoal layer off them. Inside, however, they were washed out after every use, and then washed thoroughly in the sink at our home base after every trip–they were clean and clear of any debris. The inside of that cast iron pan would make my cast iron loving and obsessed father cry.

    The Ns could have a rocket stove made of brick, but first they’d have to 1)buy brick and mortar, 2) learn how to lay brick and mortar properly, and 3) take care of it and clean it out properly. What they have above is a fine quick fix to get cooking when they first moved there and had other things to do first, but if they’re still using that now, years later, it’s a disgrace.

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  5. My kids have always enjoyed cooking outside. In the summer it’s wonderful because we don’t heat up the house. Sometimes we use the grill but often we use the fire pit. We have an old cast iron Dutch over, it’s been around the block a few times. The outside of it is pretty scorched, but the inside is perfectly seasoned. It’s served Dutch oven stew, chili and cobbler to my family and many Boy Scouts over the years.

    We also like making tin foil dinners. We started making those when we would go camping when the kids were little. They are easy to toss on the grill or in hot coals of a campfire.

    I don’t claim to be an expert in outdoor cooking. I prefer the fire of my indoor gas range but it is fun to cook outside sometimes. I don’t exactly think it’s a life skill “more important than anything they teach in schools nowadays” as one of Nic’s humpers remarked. I think it’s fun and outdoorsy. And honestly as I said to a friend this morning fire isn’t hard to make, we aren’t fucking cavemen.

    I’d get a solar oven but don’t get a lot of sun up here in Northeastern Ohio. It would just be something fun that I can’t justify the expense of.

    My advice as an observer to Nicole is get an ash can. Remove the ash and add it to a real compost pile. Ash is wonderful for composting. It will help with growing that big garden you have plans for.

    Also do they have stock in a cinder block company? I swear they pick these key homestead supplies and use them everywhere. Buckets for everything under the sun including bathrooms. And cinder blocks for decorative purposes, cooking and shoddy deck supports. It’s like they can’t be bothered to learn about proper materials.

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  6. Interestingly enough, I have donated to an organization that is in place to help women in poor countries to NOT have to cook over open flames. The ash and smoke are health risks. And I’m thinking they believe this pan is “well seasoned “. ? Years of crud isn’t what seasoning cast iron mean, you dolts! I once watched a show about an off grid fella that used sand and water to clean his cast iron, then seasoned it with a bit of wild boar fat. Me, I use salt and a water rinse for the odd mess, then a seasoning in the oven. And I’m with Dave. No way would I eat that sooty, bacteria laden shit.

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  7. Why oh why does she post these gross photos? And she puts that BLH watermark on them like she’s proud of it and it’s something special.

    Ugh, those black flecks on the food from the filthy pan. :p

    Children cooked it and children ate it. I just can’t even…

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  8. I live in the desert and have been thinking about getting one. I could almost use it year round here. What kind do you use? I’m assuming your happy with it and would recommend that brand.

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  9. Anyone that has cooked over a open fire for any amount of time knows that a good bank of hot coals gives you better cooking than roaring leaping flames.

    That pan has never been cleaned. My ex-husband got his grandmother’s cast iron frying pan. It was probably at least 70 years old when he got it and used a lot she was from KY. The outside looked a bit like the inside of the Nogs pan. But the inside was clean as a whistle and well seasoned. Best pan I ever cooked in.

    I guess the Nogs have never heard of waste not want not. That is way too much wood in that fire to cook a few eggs in a hole or what ever they want to call it. Also clean out the damn ashes and make a grid with wood for the fire to get proper air circulation so to burn down and get good coals. Good seasoned hardwood split will give you a hotter and better fire than junk rotting twigs.

    That fire pictures shows they have no clue about firewood, cooking on a open fire and they are lazy and dirty as shit.

    My husband is not a picky eater and I am sure if I put something like this in front of him he would toss it in the garbage. He is very frugal as he grew up in a large hard working poor family (farmers) and they were taught to not waste anything especially food. IMO that meal would look better if a bit of butter or better yet bacon drippings were added to the pan to cook the eggs in a hole.

    Is there anything that the Nogs can do right besides babbling on social media, lying, getting court invites and popping out kids? Worst part is they think they are doing things the right way = NOT!

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  10. Looking at her “rocket stove”she would be better off just picking up a cheap charcoal grill. I wonder which toddler made that breakfast? I can’t believe she has no shame. I can cook. I am not terribly creative and cook pretty basic but I would be so embarrassed to post pictures of food like that.

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  11. I love toad-in-a-hole, but those are an absolute travesty. For starters, there is clearly no butter, which is essential in making the toast and hole so delicious. Her holes are blackened and there are random splatters of egg everywhere. Not to mention the disgusting cast-iron skillet and the residue of a million other things cooking into the eggs and toast. That’s the drabbest toad-in-a-hole I have ever seen. Pitiful really.

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  12. that is firewood not rocket stove wood!

    The stove wood is just twigs. The firewood is supposedly actual, real firewood.

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  13. I made a troll yesterday…

    I saw the photo. Deb is talented and terrific and that was the most amazingly godawful thing I eve saw. 🙂 Truly spectacularly awful.

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  14. I about threw up in my mouth when I saw that pan. Nice crusty chunky bits everywhere. Those black bits on the food, I like leftovers, just not that kind. I hope they at least wiped it out some after the kids and chickens sat in it. Gag! This a perfect example of how not to care for cast iron. That pan never had a chance, they really don’t have an oven or grill to season it properly, with the “kitchen” facilities they have (I am being kind) I doubt they boil water to clean it or have scrapers or chainmail scrubber. Those chainmail scrubbers are awesome. Then you circle back around to keeping it seasoned. I guess when your really hungry, those old crunchy bits are extra flavor? I feel bad for that pan, I love my cast iron.

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  15. I expect nothing less from Nogland.
    Hell, I’ve cooked better meals in my fire pit. The bricks on the left side look like they are going to fall inside. That property had so much potential.
    Let’s cook over where the kids probably dumped shit,literally….
    Food for thought 🙂

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  16. Thank you for calling out the Naugler “Rocket Stove” for the Fuck-it Stove that it is.

    Rocket stoves are distinguished by their design, which creates a specific direction for the airflow so they burn the wood fuel efficiently and cleanly. Rocket stoves are NOT simply “a small outdoor cooking setup.”

    It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to follow the Google instructions and build an actual rocket stove.

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  17. In my evil statist public school science class we cooked hot dogs in little sun ovens made of cardboard boxes painted black and tin foil, it was fun. The hotdogs were actually tasty. Now that might actually be a good “unschool” lesson, but I guess dirty children wandering garbage piles finding frogs, or simply existing is enough for Nicole to brag about. Taking the time to get materials and, you know, TEACH would take away precious social media complaining time

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  18. I just thought of this as I was biking this afternoon. Do you guys in Kentucky never get fire bans? I remember a couple of canoe trips where we had to carry propane cans and a burner for them because no outdoor fires were allowed in the area, not even for cooking. Does this not happen in Kentucky?

    I was also wondering why they don’t have a propane grill and camp stove as part of their outdoor kitchen. They already bring gas for the generator and water from the shop to the homestead. I can’t see how a 30lb tank of propane would make them any less off the grid than they already are, and it would greatly ease the work of the cook, plus mean that they don’t need to totally deforest their land over the next 10 years.

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  19. I love campfire cooking.

    We do it for about 1 week every summer when we go tent camping with the kids. I have a pie iron, and a campfire toaster, and make a whole meal plan made up of pie iron meals and tin foil meals, (and some hot dogs roasted on marshmallow sticks of course). It’s delicious, and it’s different than being at home. Which is what makes it fun. In summer, we usually cook a lot in the crockpot or on the bbq too, to keep heat out of our house….

    That pan is gag worthy. Even my campfire stuff is in amazing shape because we take care of it. That pan would have been tossed forever ago in my household.

    I really believe that Nikki suffers from delusions of grandeur. She thinks that she’s so amazing at everything, but really, her family is not any more special than any other family, and really the only thing unique about her family is the conditions they’ve been forced into by their impoverished parents.

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  20. I have to wonder if the fire thing, this specific fire, and the cooking were done by the children. Because if the adults did this, they are incompetent. It wouldn’t take more than a 15 minutes to clean that all out, level everything and make a safer set-up. If they put in a good afternoon of effort they could have a very nice cooking set-up that is safe, efficient, and easy to clean. That is a ton of twigs to cook on. I know they likely have a lot of little twigs they can gather, but that doesn’t mean they should just burn as many as humanely possible to cook on.

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  21. We do a lot of Trail Riding on horseback to scout out Veneer Logs back up on the ridge line and down toward the creeks. Sometimes we get so far backup in the woods we have to setup a campsite and cook over an open flame. Our food has never looked like that…EVER !!!
    You have to attend to it the whole time your cooking. From the looks of it they are not watching over it, don’t have it covered over or even shovel out the ashes, which can start a forest fire when the wind blows.
    These ” Flatlander’s ” just don’t know anything, nor are they willing to take advice and learn. Even Youtube has videos on basic 101 cooking over an open fire. Pitiful just pitiful !!!

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  22. I completely agree with your conclusions. What makes me particularly sad is that you can pretty much count on the fact that, not only did the older kids build it (out of desperation), but they are also the ones cooking and (not) cleaning the pan (never mind the incredible fire danger of this set up, especially to the younger kids). Any sane adult could identify the hazards of the fire, the hot pan, the dirty pan and the thoroughness of the egg cooking, as well as the possible instability of the whole set up. It’s amazing to me that she still posts pictures like this after posting pictures of one of the children’s serious burns (that never received medical treatment) due to a lack of supervision while trying to start the fire. It is my sincere hope that CPS in Kentucky is paying attention to these things.

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  23. We tent camped for years and most of the campgrounds had fire rings with grates. I’d premake the food at home and keep it cool until we used it. We’d put sliced potatos with onions and butter in foil and throw them in the coals. Did our steaks and burgers on the grates. They were yummy. Years in Scouts made us well aware of foil dinners and we still do it today on our grill.
    I have 2 cast iron pans now. We used to have an entire set, but gifted it to the Scout troop. Never ever used soap on it, and found sand was good to scour with and then follow with a good cold water scrub with a steel pad. I love toad in a hole and I would not even touch that mess. Surprised no one has come down with food poisoning.

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  24. This photo, like so many posted by NN, just makes me sad. I often think of how the Foxfire Books might be appreciated by some on the ‘Stead.
    P.S. Off topic, but what about Halli (burton) for a new friend for Cheney?

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  25. Hey Nicole, here’s a word to look up: acrylamide.

    I could chalk board it for you, but you wouldn’t listen.

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  26. @Dinah:
    “It’s like they can’t be bothered to learn about proper materials.”

    If they learned about proper materials it would mean they have to follow laws and rules that don’t apply to them. 😛

    I am absolutely terrified for those children and their neighbors with that “stove” set up. The parents are so incompetent when it comes to what homesteading actually is. And that is NOT some “unschooling” lesson for your children on how to make a proper open fire for cooking. I sincerely hope CPS is keeping an eye on their posts and life…and pays them a visit. Heck, couldn’t someone actually report them to the fire department for having such an unsafe “stove” set up? It’s a forest fire waiting to happen.

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  27. The tumbling tower of cinderblocks has been addressed. The filthy pan has been addressed. The fire hazards have been addressed.

    The only things left are the trees that haven’t been cut down yet (pink ribbons mark the ones Nicole wanted removed – right?) and the ubiquitous trash. I see a crushed soda can, what looks like the handle of a saw, the water that was lugged in from somewhere, a black mystery object and is that a little pail for little people to use or is it abandoned? Where is Joe with his $900 chainsaw? That would have made short work of those saplings. If only he were actually taking care of the land, the kids, their educations, the garden, the pig, the chickens, the rabbits, training the dogs. You get the idea.

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  28. LOL

    Not ONE direct mention of the young couple’s struggles here.

    NOT ONE.

    Yet, over on FJ, not only are they discussing it – they are FILLING IN THE BLANKS themselves! bwahahahahaha!

    High horses are dangerous. Idiots. They’d better not ever again hold Sally up to some standard that THEY can’t even keep!

    HYPOCRITES

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  29. This is sooooo beyond bad in every sense and in every corner of this picture. This must be another one of her attempts to get the attention she craves and draw comments away from her latest episode of diarrhea of the mouth and the courts. A three ring circus with the ringmaster wanting to divert our attention now away from her recent self-made disaster and towards another corner. Look! over here- Presenting – a mix of sky high fire, kids and salmonella!

    And if not….. OMG.

    And if not, then how ’bout researching and building a real fireplace for cooking using the rocks that are everywhere on the Sstead. You know, the ones making the land so impossible to plow and preventing the garden from ever materializing. Nicole, how ’bout discussing with your kids researching and building some alternative solutions to this disaster in the making, BEFORE you are again obligated to return to the ER with a badly injured child.
    I will also add my DH will eat nearly anything, and when I showed him the pix he just stared, and after a long pause said, “those kids must be really hungry “.

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  30. P.S. Off topic, but what about Halli (burton) for a new friend for Cheney?

    Oh, that’s cool. Hardly anyone ever “got” the Georgia/Cheney joke. We thought it was clever as hell but nobody else even realized what it was. Halli. LOLOL

    She arrives tomorrow. I will have video.

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  31. First, observe all of those ashes haphazardly piled up high, as untouched as the day they fell there. Another confirmation that NO ONE cleans or maintains anything, there.

    …Now, imagine a haphazard pile of shit, just as untouched, and unturned. I guarantee you they still quasi-compost, and that the pile of feces and human waste is similarly lacking in maintenance. That is, no maintenance whatsoever! I bet it is just a disgusting pile, or five, about as untouched as that giant pile of ashes.
    And guess what? This isn’t idle gossip, or a “smear campaign”. The Nauglers have aired so much dirty laundry, that we can take their history, and learn from it – the past causes the present, and so the future. The math is there! And the math says that they lack the ethic to care for their property, their possessions (kids included), as well as their own human waste. To get around the physical work of maintaining a humanure compost, they just lie about it. In the ethics department, they score a zero. And Nicole cant but brag about her pile of shit, driven by spite – I mean, she subtly brought the topic of composting up on Facebook, just recently.

    P.S. Where is Smokey Bear when you need him?!?!

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  32. Can I just add…
    Nicole thinks her version of waste disposal – that is, dumping buckets of shit on the ground and lying about it – is better than modern plumbing, according to her Facebook.
    …Did you know, Nicole, that even in 1650 BCE, there existed elaborate systems of sewage disposal, made with clay pipes. 1650 BCE! In the Aegean Bronze Age! Get it together, crazy! Provide your children with a fucking toilet, already!
    Ugh. I.cant.even.

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  33. When I saw her post over there on the blessed site about how they cook , I wanted to tell her that carbon build up on cast iron does not represent a well seasoned skillet. It does, however, represent a very neglected skillet. I also wanted to tell her that if she must post pictures of how they homestead up for the world to see, she needs to be convincing. For instance, she should at least stack her cinder blocks neatly and let the fire burn down so that her cooking grill is hot and the heat more concentrated. I wanted to scream if you want to convince those of us who know a little something that you know a little something, make an effort to make it look like you half ass care about doing something…anything right.

    Then I wanted to tell her how I do it; even though I know she doesn’t give a flying fuck how anyone besides her and slug do things. While I’m no homesteading authority, I actually cook on an electric stove because, you know, we do the grid. I have a propane stove set up outside in a little outdoor cooking area where I pressure can and water bath vegetables and fruits because my house gets way too hot…you know we live without air conditioning and I just cannot let my house heat up unnecessarily. So we do outdoor cooking during the hottest summer months. We also have a wood burning grill that can also burn those brick things but we usually burn wood because we have a shit load of it here in AR. My grandkids love to use the wood burning grill and they also like to cook camping food on an open fire in what we call the fire pit. Of course, we supervise the shit out of their cooking and I stand right there to make sure the little ones don’t jump in the fire if they drop a hot dog.

    I wanted to tell her that to make a really efficient outdoor cooking area, she might have her children and that slug she calls a man walk around the property and have them bring some large rocks, not boulders, maybe like river rocks. My ex-son-in-law keeps me in nice rocks that I have used for our patio and my outdoor cooking station. It’s a good idea to put a floor over the dirt so that one isn’t walking in mud should one spill some water or other liquid material. Plus, I’ve found that a nice work area makes for a fine motivator. Additionally, to keep the rain and bird shit out, she might have the kids or that man put up a little roof, not hard to do. She can add river cane panels that can be hung to block wind and rain or she can use any screens that she might like or that her unschooled kids could make. We have a paddle fan in the ceiling because I like a breeze going. We also added a sink because I cook and can in my outdoor kitchen and like having water to use that is fresh and clean. Finally, a nice counter top is always a good idea because you really need a work area for preparing the food you are going to cook and also if you put a counter, you will have storage space for any pots, pans, or bowls that you might leave in the cooking area. Last weekend, my old fart added a little bar, which meant he had to expand it a bit, but he likes having a place to sit and talk to me while I cook and he likes having a place to set his drink whether it’s a diet coke or a glass of wine.

    Finally, I wanted to yell….please, please, please clean up that damn skillet. Like I said, seasoned is not synonymous with carbon build up. A well seasoned cast iron skillet is smooth…not all coated with grease build up and carbon build up…that’s gross and nasty.

    I guess that about sums it up. Hali-burton and Cheney sounds like nice names for a couple of asses….no insult to the donkeys meant.

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  34. better than modern plumbing

    Even a very basic History of Western Civ course will expose the student to the horrors of the Black Plague, or the cholera epidemics in India, or the serious problems that the great cities like London and Paris faced with inadequate sanitation.

    Modern plumbing gave rise to the ability of human beings to grow our population to the point we are now.

    We can debate all day whether that was a good thing or a bad thing, but Joe and Nicole insist on adding exponentially to the population like their DNA is more valuable than anyone else’s, so I would assume they think it’s a good thing.

    They aren’t very educated, and it shows.

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  35. Somebody once told me that a hoarder’s house tends to be a physical representation of their mental issues. I think I can draw a parallel here, just from this picture.

    Whether or not the kids set this up, the adults are responsible for supervision and guidance. Those adults can’t even understand that cement blocks that aren’t sitting flat on the ground may slip and slide away. They can’t look at a picture of somebody else’s cast-iron pan and notice that it isn’t pitted and gnarled inside. They can’t see that black flecks of crud all over their eggs-in-a-frame are not normal. They don’t even notice that the average fireplace on Pinterest does not have an enormous pile of ash spilling out of it. They look at this, take a picture, and act proud of it.

    Their train does not go to the station. They cannot connect the dots. They are mired in dysfunction. I wouldn’t care, except that they have kids. (And one grave.)

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  36. According to Nicole, the built-up filth on that pan was just from cooking that one meal:

    Who says the pan isn’t cleaned it does get dirty after you’ve been cooking all morning. We can (sic) just fry three eggs were feeding 12 people

    Just another example of the Blessed Ones’ habit of showing us a clear picture of something, and then trying to tell us it is something else.

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  37. LOLOL That was built up crud, not use from one morning. That pan hasn’t been cleaned in months, if ever.

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  38. The sad sad part is this, post stuff like the half ass cookfire and think its kinda cool to her and people who apparently like your food mixed with ash. Wonder if any cars have fallen in the hole left from the stolen storm grate. not only do cinder blocks break from heat, they tend to explode.

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  39. I’m just an ordinary woman. A wife, mom to nine kids, grandma to soon to be 12 who works and has given money to this family.

    What I see when I look at these two pictures:

    1. Cinderblocks haphazardly set up.
    2. Ashes out of control, never been cleaned.
    3. Fire Flames is not correct for cooking.
    4. No bucket of water or sand to put out fire.
    5. No counter, table or set up near the cooking station to hold the cooking utensils like a spatula, fork, pot holders, etc.
    6. Dirt & Dust. Everywhere. You could use a rake and clear the dirt and debris.
    7. Absolutely no order whatsoever.
    8. A cast iron skillet that has not been taken care of (there are pictures posted of a kid sitting in one in the dirt and chickens in other cookware, which shows a lack of care & responsibility for what you have).
    9. A breakfast made by kids and not by grown adults.
    10. No guidance at all is shown in these two pictures. No Love is shown in these two pictures. No comfort is shown in these two pictures.

    This is not homesteading. This is not being a miniualist. This is not camping. This is not even living off the grid. What this is is homelessness. This is sadness. This is irresponsible parenting. This is laziness. This is trying to put a spin on a dire situation that one woman and one man have put themselves and their children into. I think that Nicole posts pictures of her life to get the “likes” as she is so desperate for someone, anyone, to tell her how wonderful she is. When she sees the negative comments she attacks and tries to spin it into something about the person who pointed out the obvious. In this case, this is no homesteady, back to nature kitchen or lifestyle. This is homelessness.

    Permanent homelessness, and anyway you spin it still makes it sad in this ordinary woman’s eyes.

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  40. @Dawn
    Yes, we do get burn bans in Kentucky. We are often dry going into November and have to bag our leaves instead of burn them, unless we are lucky enough to live where the county or waste management picks them up to use as mulch.

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  41. @outsider: We have a recycled grate from an old outdoor fireplace, and it looks like that. But I had to scroll back up and make sure, because Nauglers.

    @theskyisfalling: I post a lot about what they could do with what they have and free junk, if they weren’t, well, themselves. And instructions and pictures are SO EASY TO FIND. I just looked up “build camp kitchen cinder blocks” (it even auto filled for me, and I’m using DuckDuckGo!) and on the very first page were instructions for an actual cinder block rocket stove. With only one burner, it’s too small–but page down once and there’s a plan for a two-burner stove.
    And then there’s the kindling rack. Put two cinder blocks side by side, holes up. Put lengths of 2×4 in each hole. Pile kindling between the boards. The mass of kindling will force the boards to lean into a V shape, and the V shape will keep the kindling in place–and out of the mud.

    To put the stuff I say a lot into a nutshell, they could be dirt poor but warmer, drier, cleaner, with more water, better fed, and sick less often if the Prophet there took the time to look up how to make n00b-level stuff out of junk and then actually did it.

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  42. Anyone else notice Freejinger has put the Naug thread on private??

    “Charles” and Nicole were doxing at least one of the FJ people, and it was pretty bad, I think.

    Reminds me a whole lot of Nicole insisting that I’m an abusive mother who drove my son to commit suicide while Dave watched me do it but was too much of a weenie to stop me, and probably a serial murderer of my patients. Or maybe something like Joe, who flipped it all around and determined that Dave is an abusive alcoholic. And the granddaughter thing, of course. (What we don’t have is some sort of court order forbidding us from seeing her, which is more than I can say for some folks).

    Anyway, it’s not a very pleasant experience, but hiding does not help, unless you just like being driven offline whenever Nicole takes a notion to come after you.

    Frankly, I’m rather pleased to see it. I don’t like Nicole. I think she and “Charles” are vile. I’m quite sure whatever they said was false in the extreme. However, FJ is also vile and they deserve whatever they get.

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  43. Fun fact! Back in the distant mists of time, Land Rovers had a real metal grill that you could remove and use (get this!) for GRILLING. My parents had a 1967 Land Rover that they picked up cheaply in the 1980’s. It was rugged. I hate modern Land Rovers. They’re all plastic and yeah, I guess you could take it off-roading or camping, but why would you bother?

    This isn’t ours but it’s the same make, model and color: http://13252-presscdn-0-94.pagely.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/321.jpg

    Seeing that filthy crusted cast iron pan inspired me to go and inspect ours.

    One had a handle that had some crud trying to grow where the pan and the handle join, plus in the part where it’s open so you can hang it. I dealt with it then did a light seasoning. I do hope that one of the youngsters takes advantage of the fine weather today and works on that pan. Food will taste better too.

    Now, if you’ll excuse me I’m going to try honey lavender ice cream with a few ginger snaps.

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  44. My mom has a cast iron skillet that belonged to her grandmother. It’s more than 100 years old. My great-grandmother used it when she ran a boarding house in the 20’s, cooking breakfast and dinner for hungry oil field workers.

    And it has never, not once, looked like that.

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  45. I still have my grandmother’s cast iron skillet and it’s in lovely condition. All cast iron needs is a little TLC and it’ll last forever. My son, 4th generation to use it, made scrambled eggs in it this morning.

    That skillet also has a history that seems fitting to current events.

    Back in the 1940’s, my grandma found out my uncle (her son) was hitting his wife. Police were no help back then. So my grandma asked my uncle to come over to the house under the pretense of helping her with a clogged kitchen sink. As soon as my uncle put his hand flat on the kitchen counter, grandma took the cast iron skillet and smashed his hand, causing multiple breaks. She made sure to take pictures of the hand, too. He never raised a hand to a woman again. Neither did any of her other sons or son-in-laws.

    My oldest son has already had a talk and shown the picture to make it very clear what will happen to him if he decides to be an abusive ass.

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