Seeding Stuff

There are zillions of gardening books, and websites, and videos, and methods out there.  They all purport to tell you how to best put some seed in the ground/pot and grow something.

Most of them are either hogwash or so specific that unless you’re interested in that exact small niche thing  it’s sort of useless.

This is what I know about seeds and gardening, and I say all this because I have done it for years and I have done it successfully, at least sometimes.

First, there’s seed.



You know all those fabulous seed catalogs that come in January in the mail? They’re beautiful. They sit there on the kitchen table and cause the viewer to literally salivate.

I can sit for hours with them and plan the most fabulous garden on paper.

And the ones we all have a tendency to like the best are the ones with the biggest, most gorgeous color photos of the veggies and fruits and flowers.

I have learned over the years to take those catalogs and toss them in the trash. Those are not the companies I want to deal with.  And here’s why.

Seed retailers, like Burpee and Park Seed Company and Baker Creek, don’t grow seeds.  They buy their seed from farmers who grow it and then sell it to wholesalers who then sell it in smaller quantities to seed companies.

A farmer grows a field of, say, tomatoes, one certain variety.  Let’s use one of my favorites:  Amish Paste tomatoes. That’s a nice heirloom tomato (more about heirlooms in a moment), easy to grow. To harvest the tomato seed, the farmer does not pick the tomatoes when they are ripe. He picks them when they are very overripe.

He then processes them.  Processing tomato seed involves letting the seeds sit in the tomato until well past the point where you would want to eat it.  They then have to be washed and washed and washed because they are covered with slime, dried thoroughly, tested for viability and then they are sold, probably by the pound, to a seed company like Baker Creek.


Let’s say that Baker Creek buys 50 pounds of Amish Paste tomato seeds. (I am totally guessing here – I have no idea how much they sell in a season)  Baker Creek prints up a bazillion beautiful little envelopes and puts 25 seeds in each one and sells them for a whopping $2.50 each.

[By the way, notice that if you happen to want 50 seeds, you have to buy two of those little envelopes?]

On the back of each of those little envelopes, it says clearly “Packed for 2017.”

And that’s all great.

But what happens in September, say, when nobody is buying tomato seeds because the season is winding down and they’ve sold 40 pounds of seed in those little envelopes and they’re staring at ten pounds of seed?  Do they toss it? After all, they bought it for 2017, didn’t they?

They do not toss it.

They store it for next year. Some of them store it under really good conditions. Some of them less so.

Before they sell it the following year, they do a viability test on it.  They take X seeds and sprout them and see what percentage grow.  If that percentage is XX, they then put 25 of those seeds in a beautiful little envelope that is marked “Packed for 2018” and sell it to you.

The federal government has a little say in all this. It’s called the Federal Seed Act, and it’s been in place for 78 years.  It was passed to protect farmers from unscrupulous seed sellers and to prevent noxious weeds from being spread all over hell and half of Georgia.

It also dictates exactly what percentage is the minimum allowed so that Baker Creek can put those 25 tomato seeds in a beautiful little envelope and sell them to you.  For tomatoes, that percentage is 75.

That means that 1/4 of those 25 seeds could be deader than a doornail, and it’s still okay for Baker Creek to put them in the beautiful little envelope and sell them.

And every year that Baker Creek stores that seed, the percentage of viability goes down.  After a few years of this, they have to toss the seed and start over.

And you, of course, as the customer and home gardener, are the end of the chain. You get the seed. You plant it, all 25 of those little seeds.  And only 19 of them come up.

Did you do something wrong?

Probably not. Probably that’s all that were actually alive in the first place.

Seed companies know that home gardeners are typically dumber than a box of rocks. They know that most of us have no idea what we’re doing.  They know that we’re going to most likely blame ourselves if our seed doesn’t come up, or if only half of it comes up.  Sometimes it really is our fault.

People plant stuff all the time in the wrong place, under the wrong conditions, or don’t care for it properly and it doesn’t make it.

But sometimes, they simply have shitty seed in the first place.  They have Amish Paste tomato seeds that are four years old and have only 75% viability.  And viability does not necessarily correlate with vigor.

So, what is the best course for a home gardener?

First, don’t try to save seed very much. Mostly plan to buy seed every year.  If you simply cannot bear it, and want to try, then fold up the seed packet (yeah, I know the picture is pretty, but fold it up anyway) and put it in a glass jar with a tight lid and store it in the fridge.  The key things here are cool, dark and very dry.

But then, where to buy seed in the first place?

I will tell you where I go for seed and why.

I buy seed from Johnny’s Selected Seeds.

I have no stake in the company.  I don’t know anyone who works there. I just buy seed from them for a very good reason.

I do it because I think they have a pretty high turnover.

Consider this.


This is from Baker Creek’s online catalog.  As I mentioned, you have to buy those seeds, 25 at a time, to get them.

Who is Baker Creek’s average customer?

It’s somebody who wants 25 tomato seeds.  John Q Homegardener.  That’s who.  The person who is terribly impressed by the beautiful photographs and the glossy catalog.


Here’s the same tomato in Johnny’s catalog.  A packet, they tell us, is 40 seeds, not 25.  Costs a little more than Baker Creek.

But look at the rest.  Look at your options.  Do you need 25,000 seeds?  They can be yours for $143.25.

Who in the world is Johnny’s average customer?

There is a nursery near our house, up in the Mennonite community. Every year, they grow a bazillion vegetable starts and sell them by the flat. Some of those starts are Amish Paste tomatoes.  I do not know where they get their seed, but I bet it’s from a place like Johnny’s.  They don’t buy beautiful little packets with 25 seeds. They buy 500 seeds.

And when they plant them, it’s obvious to them if half the seeds aren’t germinating. They know how to plant seeds. They know it’s not their fault.

And the next time they buy seed, they find a new supplier.

Another potential customer (apart from large scale farmers, who buy most of their seed from seed companies directly) is the guy who grows a very large mixed vegetable garden and sells produce at the farmer’s market or to local restaurants.  He also knows when half his seeds don’t come up that it’s not his fault.

I want to buy from the guy who sells seed to those guys.

So I do.

They don’t have beautiful little envelopes.  They all look just like this one.


And that leads me to “organic,” and “heirloom,” and “non-GMO.”

This is fad shit, folks. Fad shit. Fad.

Let me repeat that. It’s a fad. All of it is a fad.

Even Johnny gets in on the act with the “organic” crap.  I buy non-organic if possible because it’s cheaper and the seeds are identical. I would go so far as to say it’s probably the exact same seed, but I don’t actually know that for certain, so I won’t.

I do know that some of Johnny’s customers are people who grow for the restaurant trade and they have to do “organic” for business reasons, so that the restaurant can advertise that, and it’s all fine, but it’s bullshit and a fad and a reason to make things cost more.

“Heirloom” sounds so nice and homesteady, doesn’t it?  It simply means that it’s an old variety that is not a hybrid.  If you save the seed from an Amish Paste tomato, provided you do it right and the seed sprouts, it will breed true and the resultant fruit will look just like the parents.

The alternative is hybrid seed, generally labeled as F1 hybrids.

Hybrid seed is generally better.

Think about this for a minute and you’ll see why this is so.

Plants inherit genes just like people do.  The process is not much different.  With Amish Paste tomatoes, all the genes are the same. That’s why they all look just alike.  So Daddy tomato has identical genes to Mommy tomato, resulting in little kid tomatoes with identical genes.

Is this a good idea in people?

Why not?

It’s not because it increases rather dramatically the likelihood of genetic defects.  It’s such a bad idea that there are generally laws about incest.

The same thing applies to cattle.  Artificial insemination is a marvelous thing and has revolutionized the cattle industry, because it makes a much wider gene pool.  The dairy doesn’t have to rely on three local bulls to inseminate all their cows and end up with every cow on the place closely related to every other cow.  There are still some inherent problems related to the fact that all their dairy cattle are Jerseys, but it’s still better than having a limited pool of bulls.

Hybrid seed generally has more vigor. It generally produces better.  Note I said “generally.”  Please don’t come back at me with “I grow heirloom whatevers and they are way better than the hybrid ones.”  I know that’s possible.  I already said that I often grow Amish Paste tomatoes and they are heirloom and I like them.

However, I am aware of the drawbacks in doing so. They, unlike most hybrids, are prone to wilt and blight and all the icky bad things that tomatoes get.  It’s a gamble, one I’m willing to take because I like them.  It’s a Roma tomato but much larger than the conventional Roma.  One day I might try a really new hybrid Roma and see it I like it better.

A hybrid is simply cross-bred.  An F1 hybrid is the first generation of seed from two distinctly different parents.  You can’t save the seed, or rather, you can but if you do and plant the seed (called F2), you’ll get some strange offspring.

Some of these open-pollinated (heirloom is just the term for an open-pollinated variety that is older than the person writing about it) varieties have actually been bred very carefully and do exhibit some resistance to some diseases, but most of them are not. You gamble a bit when you plant them.

I plant a mixture. I like Amish Paste because I make spaghetti sauce and ketchup (that takes a ton of tomatoes).  I also usually grow a hybrid to eat, and I often grow some sort of cherry tomato.

And now for the last fad thing:  non-GMO.

I’ve already gone into the whole GMO bullshit thing, but this is about vegetable seeds.

Read this.

There is no such thing as a GMO vegetable seed that you can purchase in beautiful little envelopes with 25 seeds in the packet.  No such thing.  Anywhere in America.  It does not exist.

Read that again.  Go back.

Nobody has them.  Baker Creek doesn’t have them. Johnny’s doesn’t have them.  Nobody does.

They don’t because if you really want to buy GMO seed, you have to get it in bulk from a seed supplier that sells directly to farmers. That’s because GMO seed (most of it, right now anyway) is patented and that evil Monsanto wants to know who in the hell is growing their patented seed.  Otherwise, how will they know who to sue?

Oh, wait. No.

It is patented. That much is true.  And the company that owns the patent does require the farmer who buys it to sign a contract which spells out the terms.  It’s Monsanto’s (or whoever – I don’t know who owns the patent on GMO sugar beets) seed. They can make any conditions they like on the use of it while that patent is good.  And one of those conditions is that the farmer agrees not to save the seed. If you didn’t sign a contract, you didn’t buy GMO seed.

That’s one reason they don’t sell 25 seeds in a beautiful little envelope to Susie Homegardener.

The other reason is that it would be the dumbest thing in the world to do.

Tomatoes don’t count because there are no GMO tomatoes.  But there is GMO corn, although the overwhelming majority of it is field corn, and Susie doesn’t want to grow field corn. But let’s say that Monsanto’s GMO sweet corn was available to Susie in those beautiful little envelopes, and she planted it in her garden.

And the weeds came up.  And Susie wanted to get rid of the weeds, so she went to get her trusty little Roundup spray bottle and went out there and sprayed the hell out of her corn.

All the weeds died.

And so did her entire garden except for the corn.

Don’t pay any attention to any seed supplier that puts out a disclaimer that they don’t sell GMO seeds. It’s silly.  Nobody does for the home garden.

And coming next, what to do with that little packet of seeds once you get it.



22 thoughts on “Seeding Stuff”

  1. Im lazy, my growing season is short. I go to the local nursery, home depot, whatever strikes my fancy and buy starts.
    Last time I grew plants from seeds, my cats ate them.


  2. I am *not* a gardener. I have brown thumbs… that is what the Farmer’s Market is for.

    I’m very curious to see how the tomatoes do. In all the years of my parents, grandparents, & neighbor’s planting gardens, none of them have EVER planted tomatoes from seed….they always use started plants.


  3. I have a question. I saw the garden post on the BLH and my first thought was arent they a little behind the eight ball growing tomatoes from seed at this point? Shouldnt those seeds have been started months ago? I live in central Ohio. I cant imagine the growing season ismuch different than mine, and i do not know a single person that did not put actual plants into the ground at the end of May.


  4. Not a gardnerer, never will be. But this yer we had potatoes laying aroud long enough that little buds started to grow on them. So they went out to the side yard, dug a little trench and stuck em in the ground, they are coming up rather nicely, My applause to anyone that can grow a beautiful garden. We know that most of the stuff on the shit stead will end up dead from the heat of the summer. If it grows at all,


  5. I’d actually suggest buying seed from a local distributor instead. Especially in the great green PNW. It’s very wet and not too warm around here. If the seed grows for Joe farmer in Corvallis, OR I can be fairly sure it will work well in Salem, OR or even all the way up here in Skagit county WA. I prefer heirloom varieties mostly for flavor, but they also tend to fair better in my little microclimate. I didn’t buy my squash seeds for this year, (we moved in a year ago) I save the seed from the squash I bought at my local farm and prepared the seed. I am really looking forward to some ambercup squash and corn this year. My property is basically a wetland 60% of the year (like much of the west side of the mountains in the PNW). We just planted apple, cherry, peaches, and a HEIRLOOM variety of fig indigenous to WA state. Heirloom certainly has a place when you consider growing region. We have rich, fertile soil but our climate can be tricky. Seeds are generally hybridized for areas other than the PNW. Here I rely upon planting local friendly seeds and planting things together or crop rotation.


  6. A hybrid is simply cross-bred. An F1 hybrid is the first generation of seed from two distinctly different parents. You can’t save the seed, or rather, you can but if you do and plant the seed (called F2), you’ll get some strange offspring.

    I want to hammer on that a little bit but in a slightly different direction. Slightly. I want to point out that they do not cross tomato varieties of wildly different purposes or even length of time needed before harvesting. You might get the best of both world, the worst, or some combination of the two that doesn’t really work.

    The slightly different direction is regarding Nicole & Joe and the way they “breed” dogs. You do not cross two breeds that have significantly different purposes, sizes, temperaments and expect to get the best of both worlds. What they’ve done is been too lazy to go get their dogs spayed/neutered through any sort of low-cost program (one that likely includes at least a few vaccinations) and have puppies that may or may not have a good future ahead of them. Breeding two different breeds doesn’t necessarily mean you get the hybrid vigor – it could mean you get even more genetic issues than if you had stuck with one or the other, done your homework, etc.

    They’re so flipping irresponsible about their animals and their laissez-faire attitude is apparent in other areas of their lives. I do hope that the young owners of the two newest (female) puppies stand up to their parents and INSIST that they get those dogs spayed and vaccinated. Even if it’s “only” because they don’t want to take the risk of their dogs being afflicted with mammary gland tumors, ovarian and/or uterine cancer. Spaying them around six months means their risk is reduced or eliminated, especially if done before the first heat cycle.

    I bought some overpriced seeds from Baker Heirloom once – one of the kids really wanted to try to grow Tiger Melons despite our less-than-ideal location. I didn’t mind throwing away a couple of bucks for him to try it. However, if we try to grow a garden in the future, I’ll definitely purchase my seeds elsewhere. First though, there are weakened trees that need to be brought down and transformed into firewood. We need more sun than we usually get to have a chance to fight off the squirrels, rabbits and deer.


  7. I garden. I used to plant my own seeds down in the basement when it was still cold and grey out. I loved caring for those little seedlings. But then I grew teenagers and life got busy. And now when I garden I get a few seeds, mostly green beans, carrots and lettuce and the for the rest I buy seedlings. It would be cheaper to buy seeds and grow my own seedlings. But I don’t garden because it’s cheaper. I garden because I like going outside and digging in the dirt, I like the sunshine. It’s a healthy activity and my therapist suggested it many years ago. It stuck. I also like going outside and picking what I need for dinner that night. Or collecting a whole bunch of tomatoes to can for the rest of the year. Funny thing is I’m not a fan of tomatoes but I used them in recipes so I tend to grow a bunch of them. I do like these yellow grape tomatoes, they are sweet and go great in pasta salad.

    I am a total novice gardener. I’ve done it for a few years but I will likely never be an expert. I like growing food because I can’t keep flowers or plants alive but somehow I can keep food alive. It’s weird and rewarding emotionally but financially probably not.

    Thanks for sharing about seeds. Most of my seeds I get from a friend. She runs a food not lawns group and also has loads of seeds and seedlings so I get what I want from her and buy the rest from the overpriced garden store down the street. The folks are local. I like their little store. And I like them.


  8. I started a hay bale garden and we’re planting seedlings this weekend. Is this an okay way to have a small container garden?


  9. hay bale garden

    Sure. Small scale. Container. Those are the most important words. Leave plenty of space. The temptation is to grossly overcrowd the space.


  10. Territorial, yes. Very similar out west. You can tell because you can buy a pound of seed if you want. 🙂


  11. One more in case you have PNW people looking in the comments section. Adaptive Seeds is quite nice too.

    They have some pretty cool seed I haven’t seen elsewhere and combine seed from a variety of farms. Yes, they are organic and talk about gmo. There is a reason for that; farmers had been sued by montesanto for illegally growing/saving seeds that didn’t actually grow their crops using genetic testing to prove their case. Talking about cow genetics related to milk (A1/A2) is a pretty big deal around here too actually do the gmo and organic label matters for farmers because you can’t simply grow using organic methods and get the organic certification here. Whether you agree with the usda organic or Oregon tilth certification or not; it’s a pretty big deal out here.


  12. farmers had been sued by montesanto for illegally growing/saving seeds that didn’t actually grow their crops using genetic testing to prove their case. Talking about cow genetics related to milk (A1/A2) is a pretty big deal around here too actually do the gmo and organ

    Monsanto has never sued anyone who accidentally grew stuff and it was found to be patented. NEVER. It simply has not happened.

    I spent a while looking into every case I could find involving Monsanto and actually reading the actual court cases. In every case, the farmer purposely violated the terms of their contract. Innocent people have never been sued. Monsanto is a corporation and as such, can be more or less ruthless. They’re out there to make a profit. But they are not the evil overlords of the under world that they have been painted to be. They have donated every single dime they have ever made from lawsuits to charity which is more than I can say for the moron in the White House.

    I know that organic is a big deal in some markets. The ultimate consumers are suckers, but it’s a big deal. It’s a way food processors (more than the actual farmers) to add “value” onto their products and get dumb people to pay more money for food. I get it. I don’t do it, but I understand it.


  13. I completely believe and understand that you didn’t see links to any lawsuits related to Montsanto suing farmers unjustly. On the otherhand, I don’t think you can find a complete picture very easily online.

    I personally know a small farmer that lived in OR that had friends that dealt with this. It didn’t actually end up going to court, but the farmers were certainly bullied and harassed a great deal over the course of years. The crux of the issue was that the farm started out using Montsanto seeds, switched over to a different type of seed, then saved that seed to replant. Montsanto assumed that because they were still in operation that they saved seed violating their contract. The concept that a farm would switch over to a different type of seed was impossible for Montsanto to believe. The threat of legal action by a large company can cripple a small farm that doesn’t have the resources to fight. The coffee kerfuffle regarding “Christmas Blend” and Starbucks turned out well in part because Abbot Tryphon is one smart cookie and isn’t easily bullied (he shrugged off a beheading threat, Starbucks isn’t real scary after that).

    Montsanto has an extensive history of harassment of farmers. In fact, one lawsuit they won in Canada didn’t actually end up with a judgement against the farm because it was decided that the farm didn’t profit from their “theft”. So the absence of lawsuits found online does not equate to a lack of issues related to Montsanto.


  14. “Since the mid‑1990s, Monsanto indicates that it has filed suit against 145 individual U.S. farmers for patent infringement and/or breach of contract in connection with its genetically engineered seed but has proceeded through trial against only eleven farmers, all of which it won.” (This is from Wikipedia, but matches exactly what the records show.)

    The Canadian case you are talking about is Percy Schmeiser. He was totally guilty. Absolutely guilty. That is one of the most famous cases of all, and he lost because he was guilty as hell. Furthermore the case is easy to find online. I read the whole thing.

    I would say that 145 cases is a far cry from “an extensive history of harassment of farmers.” Why in the hell would Monsanto want to harass their own customers? What possible good could come of that? I have lots of farmer friends and they buy Roundup Ready seed every year and love the stuff. They have zero issues with Monsanto.

    The concept that a farm would switch over to a different type of seed was impossible for Montsanto to believe.

    Please don’t insult my intelligence. Monsanto sells seed to farmers. Monsanto has people on their staff who understand agriculture thoroughly.

    Look, I know that it’s very popular to demonize that company. It has become the embodiment of all that is evil about corporations. And I’m sure it’s not a perfect situation. I’m not sure any corporation can be. But much of what is claimed is simply false or greatly exaggerated.

    Frances loves, loves, loves GMO corn and soy.


  15. So, I am one of those green thumb folks who can grow shit anywhere. This year, I have a huge garden area and I planted the hell out of it after putting some much needed cow crap from my daughter’s pile of cow crap she lets season by the barn…I began planting in Feb. and am still planting a few things that I want extra of and that will grow in the summer’s heat. I have harvested spring turnip greens and have made turnip kraut out of the turnips; I filled two 10 gallon crocks with cabbage and it has fermented up to make some very good kraut; yesterday, I canned my first round of green beans and it looks like I’ll be canning green beans tomorrow and the next day and the day after until I just get tired of it all and call my sister to come over and get some beans. I will l be freezing the English peas. I planted forty tomato plants…I know that’s a lot of tomatoes but I love canning sauces and soups. All the plants are loaded down with tomatoes and I have made some green tomato relish and fried a few green tomatoes and will still have more tomatoes that I can shake a stick at. I guess I have some pretty good timing because after I harvest and freeze the English peas, the purple hulls will probably be ready and after I get what I want from those plants, the CA peas will be going full swing. I will be pickling beets and probably cucumbers by the end of next week. Everything I have planted has done very well. I planted way too much okra and way too much squash but I will eat what we want and freeze, can, ferment, pickle or dry what’s left. (Have you ever eaten dehydrated okra?) I am helping my daughter with her garden too and I have to say, between the two of us, we will keep two pressure cookers going every few days. She does all the lifting for me and I run the machines. LOL

    BTW, I looked at the new instant pot and told my old fart he needs to shake the dust out of his wallet and go pick me up one. I am hoping that happens soon. My daughter’s hens are laying eggs like crazy and my little girls are picking up too. Life is good and I am so happy that I am retired so that I have time to do what’s important…live!


  16. GMOs have been an integral part of the American diet since 1996. Ask my daughter, she’ll tell you all about GMOs…. having studied them extensively in her genetics, cell and molecular biology and botany classes. (kid is a premed cell and molecular biology major at a major research university)

    Her thoughts on GMOs: They’re safe. The plants are bred for desired qualities, just as farmers have been doing for thousands of years with selective breeding and hybridization. The food is identical, or improved. They’re the best weapon we have against global hunger. While there are some environmental concerns (reduced biodiversity) there are other environmental victories associated with GMO’s…less pesticides, herbicides, fungicides. Less contamination of soil and water. Reduced clearing of wild lands for agriculture as global population increases….because GMO’s generally produce much more per acre.

    Some criticisms….biodiversity decreases and that can affect other organisms in negative or positive ways. Seeds don’t breed true, so saving seed season to season doesn’t work. Winds contaminating fields of small farmers next door who depend on banking their own seed for next year…can be problematic. (not talking America here, folks, I’m talking third world countries.)

    But there are some amazing GMO success stories.

    “Golden Rice” is an interesting GMO story.
    In a lot of regions of the world where foods rich in vitamin A are scarce….children under 5 die from the lack of this essential nutrient. Like…you know….half a million kids per year. They also suffer side effect like permanent blindness from vitamin A deficiency.

    So “golden rice” was modified to be enriched with beta carotene….to provide the missing vitamin A in areas where vitamin A rich foods are hard to come by.

    Scientists made the golden rice, tested it, know it works, and will likely be introducing it in the Philippines in 2019, Bangladesh in 2018. Introduction of golden rice has been painstakingly slow in many other regions…because of baseless fear.

    Oh, but those greedy companies producing it! They must be the REAL culprits! They’re probably making it too expensive for those poor starving countries!

    Actually…no. Not at all.

    Syngenta, the biotechnology company that developed Golden Rice, has given up its intellectual property rights on Golden Rice as a humanitarian initiative…so it’s super cheap. But fear mongering by groups like Greenpeace, has held up it’s release and killed a lot of kids who could have been helped….in spite of 100 Nobel laureates strenuously defended the science by signing a letter condemning organizations with rabid anti-GMO positions.

    Here’s another GMO victory story: Potatoes!

    A new GMO potato has fewer brown spots…which reduces waste. It’s resistant to bruising. It requires about half the fungicide. And here’s the REALLY COOL trait…

    the new GMO potato is less cancerous than the old heirloom varieties. Yep, you read that right.

    GMO Potato = LESS carcinogenic.

    The new GMO potatoes have a reduced amount of a naturally occurring chemical called asparagine. When asparagine is subjected to high heat, such as that used in fryers, it can be converted into acrylamide, a probable carcinogen.

    McDonald’s is using anti-gmo propoganda to promise its customers it will never use GMO potatoes….in the fryers it runs day and night turning potatoes into a carcinogen. LOL. (when it could reduce cancer causing properties by switching to GMO potatoes….but of course, that would be more expensive…so it will exploit baseless fear instead)

    Here’s the facts, folks:

    If you don’t think you’ve been eating GMOs every single day for the past 20 years or so, you’re very likely sadly mistaken.

    Anything with corn, corn syrup, corn flour, corn starch, corn oil….has probably come from a GMO crop.
    Anything with sugar that comes from beets….GMO (55% of US sugar comes from beets)
    Anything with soy.

    If your underpants are cotton, they’re a GMO crop, too. What’s cool about GMO cotton? It requires much less pesticide.

    Most of the cows I know eat GMO corn silage and GMO alfalfa. Which kinda makes McD’s passionate promise against GMO potatoes pretty Moot. LOL.

    With the cows eating GMOs, anything with cheese, milk, cream….

    ICE CREAM is GMO. Double whammy. Both dairy and sugar!

    Chicken and eggs are touched by GMOs cause clearly they’ve got soy and corn in their feed.

    Milk and Soy? All infant baby formula is full of GMOs. If you’ve fed a baby formula in the past 20 years…they’ve had GMOs in that baby bottle. If they’ve breast fed, instead…they’re still getting exposure to all the GMOs you eat in your breast milk, so you really can’t win.

    Papaya, Squash….or anything that casts a shadow, really. The GMOs walk among us…and have for two decades.

    It honestly will be ok. I promise. And so does my smarty pants kid.


  17. “May. 21, 2004

    The Supreme Court of Canada made biotechnology history Friday with a 5-4 ruling that a Saskatchewan farmer violated a patent Monsanto Canada Inc. held on genes of genetically engineered canola seeds.”

    “Mr. Schmeiser, 74, cast himself as a farmer of the old school who habitually used seeds from previous crops to plant new canola. No fan of chemical herbicides, Mr. Schmeiser used Roundup sparingly in 1997 to eliminate weeds around some power poles and ditches.

    He has steadfastly insisted that the seed somehow blew onto his fields from passing trucks or from neighbouring farms, which had paid Monsanto Canada Inc. the licensing fee of $15 an acre to use it.

    He said he was astonished to discover that a great deal of the canola in those areas survived his spraying, suggesting that had somehow acquired a resistance to the herbicide. He used portions of the seed from those areas for his crop the following year.”

    “In assessing damages after the original trial, Judge MacKay noted that tests revealed that 1,030 acres of the canola on the farm were more than 95 per cent resistant to the herbicide. He awarded Monsanto the equivalent of Mr. Schmeiser’s profits on his 1998 canola crop ‹ $19,832 ‹ as well as legal costs estimated at $153,000.”

    That’s guilty as hell. 978+ acres out of 1030 acres *magically* are resistant to Roundup and all of that seed just blew over from adjoining farms and off of passing trucks.

    Plus, Monsanto produced receipts that showed Mr. Schmeiser purchased enough Roundup to spray 1000 acres of canola in 1998.

    “Finally, before planting his seed in 1998, Schmeiser had taken it to a local seed processing plant to be treated with chemicals. The company had kept a sample, and the sample didn’t appear to come directly from the harvesting machinery, as Schmeiser claimed. The seed appeared to have been cleaned; it lacked the usual bits of plant stems and dirt.”


  18. The Schmeiser case is one that made me realize that the evil Monsanto trope is bullshit.


  19. He’s not a hero, that’s for certain.

    “In the first trial, Schmeiser claimed in 1997 he sprayed Roundup on three acres of his canola field because he was suspicious it might be Roundup tolerant. If his story were true, this would kill any canola plants other than those tolerant to Roundup. After killing more than half his crop, he then harvested the remaining plants that did not die and segregated this seed. The next year (1998) he had this seed treated and used this seed to plant 1,030 acres on his farm.

    Why would he harvest seed that he says he didn’t want on his farm and deliberately plant it the following year?”

    “Consider Schmeiser’s legal history with this situation:

    Schmeiser was first found to have violated Monsanto’s patent in 2001 when the federal court found he “knew or ought to have known” he had saved and planted Roundup Ready seed and infringed Monsanto’s Roundup Ready patented technology.
    You can read the original Canadian court decision at
    He lost again upon appeal in 2002, when the three-member Canadian Federal Court of Appeal unanimously dismissed all 17 grounds of appeal submitted for Mr. Schmeiser.
    Read the entire decision at
    He lost again, in 2004, in an appeal to the Canadian Supreme Court–exhausting all his legal options.
    See the court judgment document at
    During his frequent lecture tours, Schmeiser continues to say he didn’t plant Roundup Ready seeds. He’s even stated he won the case in the Canadian Supreme Court. What he doesn’t say is that three separate court decisions, including the Supreme Court decision, say exactly the opposite.”

    Well, when caught in a lie, insist it’s the truth. It’s amazing the banquet of bullshit that people will eat and enjoy when told it’s filet mignon constantly.


  20. I love our garden! It has become an addiction for my husband and I. We’re going to double it next year. I think I’ll order from Johnny’s next year, I bookmarked it on my computer. A wind storm blew a bunch of our trees down last fall so we’re going to plant apples trees and such there next year. So many next year plans but we for real do what we plan. We bought this place a few years ago and have seriously planned out our goals, like they are written down ahaha. We often say next year but end up slipping one or two next years plans into the current. We have this years plans already in motion but they would bore you, I’m sure of it. One of this years plans is particularly large, difficult, expensive, and incredibly time consuming. But once it’s done, it’s done. That’s my motto.


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