Oh, Barney, We’ve Missed You So Much

So I finished up my morning real-life activities and settled down to do some online stuff and what do I see on the blog but this.

threat

bugeye BarneySo I thought:

WTF?

Well, for just a second.

Before I started laughing.

 

 

 

 

 

Then I did a few minutes of looking about.

First the email address.

hayes law firm

LOL  Santa Clarita, California.  Mr. Hayes practices family, divorce, and bankruptcy law.  I bet he’d be astonished to see his email address being used in an anonymous online threat.

Then the IP address.

ip address

Mr. Hayes is apparently in Frankfurt, Germany.

Or, using Occam’s Razor (go look that up, it’s your homework assignment for today), I’d say that somebody is being cute and using an IP proxy service. I’d also be willing to bet it’s not Donald A Hayes.

Face it, guys. You’re going to have to do actual work to feed yourselves. You’re not going to be able to sue me to get money.

Barney gun

 

Nice try, though.

 

 

 

 

 

UPDATE:

From email we get this.

email

And the little attached message is this.

jack

Here’s the deal, Jack, you idiot: I am making public commentary on someone else’s public statements.

You, in turn, can make public commentary on my public statements.

None of that is “harassment.”

Harassment, by definition, involves somebody actually coming to you (in person, or online, say, to your Facebook page or blog) and stalking you.  I am not doing that.  In fact, the person who has come here harassing me is you, Jack, to the point that I had to remove your comments. You’re visiting here, using a proxy IP address and impersonating an attorney in order to harass me.  And now you’re harassing me by sending unwanted emails.

Nobody has to come here and read any of this. Not you.  Not Joe. Not Nicole.

Bye.

 

77 thoughts on “Oh, Barney, We’ve Missed You So Much”

  1. That attorney should at minimum be informed that someone is posing to be him/his law practice. That is fraud. What idiots, using a real ATTORNEY’s email address.

  2. Now that’s some funny (albeit pathetic) shit.

    Can’t intimidate here like they are used to, so they throw a tantrum.

  3. Why would people who are so blatantly anti-government, anti-tax and anti-law enforcement want to use the judicial branch which is funded by tax dollars to ease their hurt little feelings?

    Will they drive to court on tax-funded roads? Will they kiss up to the tax funded, government employed judge? Will they plead to the jury chosen for duty from voter registration?

    Hypocrisy is an ugly life plan.

  4. Daw shucks there!
    Get real askeered
    Ima getchu meddling kids
    And your dog too!
    Hyuck hyuck hyuck
    I’ll sue you for a pair of pants since my little clique is pooping ours.

  5. I knew Mr. N was very lazy. It looks like the Mrs, spends all day reading this blog.

    Are they getting the children involved now in online posts? That is horrible!

    I honestly don’t think they understand how the real world works.

    The poor children are doomed. Ma & Pa are raising them in a cult-like home.

  6. It seems to me that Joe & Nicole are not only very poor monetarily, they are also spiritually bankrupt.

    You never see one single post or comment that reflects gratitude.

    No gratitude for their healthy children, for thier generous supporters or even for their country.

    They only spew ignorance and hate.

    It must be hard to live when you are so envious and embittered. Mrs. Naugler seems especially bitter and Mr. Naugler seems to think he is all that and more.

    I guess if I had a husband who underperformed as badly as hers, I would be jealous and bitter too.

    Joe has got to be the sorriest excuse for a man I ever saw.

  7. They simply cannot make up “their” collective minds, can they? A complaint has been issued? Really, now? Or do you consider, Jack/Jill/WhoTheF@ckCares?, the phony email is a ‘Complaint’, a legal complaint? Really? Seriously? Come on, surely you jest.

    No, wait. I bet you aren’t joking, I bet you really are so stupid as to think you’re actually scaring ‘us’ and that anyone of ‘us’ are taking you seriously. Let me say this on behalf of any of ‘us’ who wants to claim it: You are a joke and we laugh our asses off at your $hit. Seriously, we do. Laugh our ASSES off.

    Great diet aid, though, in case anyone ‘there’ needs any weight loss tips.

  8. Did either of them ever suffer from some sort of brain injury?
    I am being serious. No reasonable adult would even consider this to be a legitimate response. I have worked with people with brain injuries. So many things they do on and off the internet indicate that there is some level of impairment.

  9. I must say, this is freaking hilarious. Who is Mr.and Mrs.Butler’s keyboard lawyer? Perhaps someone from High Commander Joseph Nauglers own private militia? I hope he doesn’t have someone on staff from Nigeria.

  10. This is so sad. Having followed this story for the past 7 months, it is becoming increasingly evident to me that these parents are constantly angry and lashing out, and expending so much energy on their perceived battles, they have little time or energy for anything else. I believe the effect and example they are teaching their children is so destructive to the healthy development of children. These effects are not easily undone in adulthood. I just don’t see how these kids will come out of this with any skills for their future. Perhaps that is the plan, to keep the kids in servitude on the “homestead”. BettyAnne, I have been of the same opinion from the onset.
    Great Blog, keep it up!

  11. The purple haze thickens. Unbelievable. It’s so crazy, you can’t make this stuff up! One wonders who is behind, and more…who enables and/or encourages. I too, am of the same opinion as BettyAnne. And again, the think tank that created this blog…it’s marvelous! A site I look forward to checking in on frequently. As well, the discussion comments. FB refugee, well spoken.

  12. Have you ever wondered, what if “I” quit harassing this family? Try it, you might just learn something.

    What I have learned over the last 7 months is this; Joe and Nicole aren’t going to concede and change simply because a few dozen outspoken people are calling for them to change.

  13. a few dozen outspoken people are calling for them to change.

    You seem to be under some mistaken idea here that I am “calling for the Nauglers” to “change.”

    I am not. That stuff is up to the local authorities. I don’t have a voice there.

    I am simply doing what the Nauglers wanted (they are the ones who went to great lengths to make sure this story got widespread attention). I am giving them that attention.

    I am also providing a one-stop shop of sorts, where anyone who might be thinking that donating to these folks’ various begging campaigns would be a worthy thing to do can read all about them and make an informed decision about the wisdom of that idea.

    If people read here and decide that Joe and Nicole are the epitome of intrepid pioneer types and that they want to give them money or gifts or even attention – that is fine and their decision to make.

    And I am not “harassing” anyone. I haven’t left this website to go anywhere. Nicole and Joe don’t have to visit at all. Nobody is making them surf the web.

  14. “I am also providing a one-stop shop of sorts, where anyone who might be thinking that donating to these folks’ various begging campaigns would be a worthy thing to do can read all about them and make an informed decision about the wisdom of that idea.”

    The only ones who really know about this site are those that have followed the story. So essentially you’re not providing anything. This blog provides nothing for anyone to gain from it. It provides your opinion. That opinion and a buck will get you a coffee at McDonald’s.

    I have seen some real hatred in my life, but the hatred shown towards this family over the last 7 months is astonishing. I have seen it from all walks of life, from a retired attorney, to a pilot, to royalty of the mosaic art world, to the entertainment world, to retired teachers, and to a disabled blind in one eye Canadian.

    Would you want so many bad things said about you or a family member?

  15. Many of the people who “like” the Naugler’s page do so because they are baffled at the absolute ineptness of the parents and continue to hope that the children, somehow, make it to adulthood with some level of competency and functionality. It is, quite simply, like being unable to avert your eyes from an impending accident and just praying that there are survivors.

    Beyond the squalor and neglectful conditions, I have watched with equal parts horror and amusement at how the Nauglers react to criticism. This article from Psychology Today brilliantly outlines the underlying deficiencies and highlights their inability to recognize their own faults and their need to lash out at anyone who disagrees – all without an ounce of intelligent logic or discourse. Instead they pepper people with doxxing fake accounts, foul language, and memes.

    https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/evolution-the-self/201110/the-narcissists-dilemma-they-can-dish-it-out

  16. “Many of the people who “like” the Naugler’s page do so because they are baffled at the absolute ineptness of the parents and continue to hope that the children, somehow, make it to adulthood with some level of competency and functionality.”

    I disagree, I think most are intrigued and want to see the family succeed. I also believe there are a small amount of the likes, that are trolls. Do you remember how many people donated when the GFM launched to meet the goal? I can say with certainty, that if it happened all over today after what everyone knows, the donors would do it again. Generous people give without needing to know where their funds went. That’s what is in their hearts, just like mine.

  17. The only ones who really know about this site are those that have followed the story. So essentially you’re not providing anything.

    So far. It takes a while for the Google to catch up. I’m patient.

    This blog provides nothing for anyone to gain from it. It provides your opinion. That opinion and a buck will get you a coffee at McDonald’s.

    Thank for confirming that my commentary is, in fact, my opinion (and thus, protected speech). I appreciate that.

    But it also provides links (all in one place and there are lots more coming as I get time), and lots of pictures and tidbits from Nicole’s various blogs (in her own words) complete with links to the sources.

    Would you want so many bad things said about you or a family member?

    Most people would not. But most people wouldn’t go on social media blasting their sordid little story all over the place either, and most people wouldn’t post inflammatory photos designed to cause outrage and then get all butthurt when people recoil. And most people don’t beg online.

  18. I can say with certainty, that if it happened all over today after what everyone knows, the donors would do it again.

    You can? With certainty? Wow. That’s amazing.

    Generous people do sometimes give “without needing to know where their funds went.” Generous, stupid people do that.

    I am generous, but I am not stupid.

  19. Mr. Blakely,

    “Family”. That’s a very persuasive deflection. People blame the parents and especially the father for this sensation. Constantly deflecting and saying that “people are attacking the family” is neither realistic or fair. Blame is being placed squarely where it belongs. Not on the children, not on the family as a whole, but on parents who are painting a decpetive and misleading picture while keeping numerous crowd funding and donation source available.

    Would people donate again . . . given the same circumstances? Yes. They would. because the same circumstances would mean that they were being deceived as they were the first time. Would they do it again after everything that everybody knows? I cannot say with any certainty that they would. This blog is neither an attack on the family nor is it harassment. It is an objective counter to what many perceive to be an ongoing practice of deception.

  20. Right on! Blessed little Blog! I loved your last entry.

    Dear Americain and any other nationality friends!

    We have more similarities than differences. We are all human despite our nationality. As decent human beings, it pains us to see children being neglected and exploited. It enrages us that they are being harmed by their parents poor choices.

    No matter what side of the border you reside, ensuring your children receive the best housing, nutritious food, healthcare and education should be a parents priority. Sadly, it seems like that is not the case for the Naugler parents.

    I know I am grateful that I live in a wealthy enough country to ensure my children have those basic needs. It is the same in the United States. It just takes a willingness to work hard and put your kids first. Being born in our countries both democratic and free is something the majority of us are grateful for. Not the Nauglers. They are anything but. So much so they even denied their children a most basic and precious human right. Their American citizenship. They refused to register their children’s birth. Denying the children access to health care, assistance with higher education and a myriad of other things we are lucky enough to have.

    I am writing this comment because over on the jack page, on the Blessed Little Homestead, Ms. Nauglers personal pages and lord knows whatever other pages they have, they rant on about me, about my nationality.

    So what if I am Canadian.

    Did you return any monies received from outside the USA on your go fund me, PayPal, Vimeo, or any other begging page?

    I doubt it.

    You don’t mind taking cold hard cash from any nationality so why should opinions be any different?

    Personally, I am proud to call the USA my friend and neighbour! We’re friendly like that up here.

    Take it easy my friends. From a proud Canadian!

    Denise H.

  21. I wouldn’t donate again.

    I thought these parents were persecuted homeschoolers.

    They aren’t. Their lifestyle isn’t a lifestyle as much as it is an cult mentality, while they squat on a patch of brush land raising children to fear anyone but ma and pa prophet!!!

    Scary!!!

  22. I have to disagree. I see no hatred on these blog posts. Nor do I see attacks on the family. What I see is a critical eye being turned on some rather carefully chosen memes, repostings, and words of two adults who have chosen to place themselves in the public arena for their own personal gain. It is, to misquote Ralph Waldo Emerson, a vulgar mistake to confuse criticism with persecution.

  23. Show me a receipt that you gave. I doubt anyone on here has given. BLH had stated long ago, provide proof that you donated and they would refund your money. You people are the ones who are truly butt hurt. You’re of the mentality that no one should receive money not earned. Why don’t you go down to the local welfare office and picket those people. Lets see how well received you truly are. I have many doubts that many of the “different posters” are really different people. You’re the same few that have been around hounding this family since day one. You got shut down by Facebook, and this is your new outlet.

  24. Mr. Blakely,

    Thank you for giving me the opportunity to educate. I want to address your comment “and to a disabled blind in one eye Canadian.” I must correct you, I am blind in both eyes. Having a visual acuity of 20/200 or more with the aid of glasses is what “legally blind” is. It does not mean we do not see anything at all. We use adapted technology to use our computers. It does not mean that we always use a white cane or a guide dog. It does not mean that we are not intelligent or without opinion.

    I am not as concerned about my disability as you seem to be. It never prevented me from working, getting a higher education or raising my children, as a single parent after my husband died. Unlike Joe, I never allowed any barriers, philosophies or other people’s opinions to prevent me from supporting my family. If I had listened to other people’s opinions, I would have sat around doing squat all my life being dependent on others just like Joe. I mean what would that man do without his wife bringing home the bacon. I stepped up when I needed to and still do.

    Now that my children are raised and pursuing their degrees, raising their families and working at lucrative careers, I still work. I also do plenty of volunteer work to better my community and am an advocate for disabled folks.

    They go on about their freedoms and rights. I know all about rights and freedoms. Me and an army of unsung soldiers were the original freedom fighters for children to have the right to attend mainstream school despite our disability. To be accommodated. Not shipped off to special school away from our families and friends. We took on the bullies, the teachers who did not want us to go the extra mile and the complaining parents, the children who pushed us around and called us names. We took that each and every day from Kindergarten all through our school days. We did it to stand up for our rights. Our right to choose and our right to the same educational opportunities as any able bodies child.

    Now that you know a bit more about my story, you may see why I am a tad passionate about the Naugler children and their lack of educational opportunities due to their parents. I fought for my education. I fought for my right to be treated as an equal in society and afforded the same respect, job opportunities as anyone else. I think the Naugler children deserve all these things too.

    One of my greatest gifts in life were all the mentors who helped me become the strong independent woman I am today. The teachers who gave me more than lessons, but compassion and hope. The librarians who gave so many hours of their own time to help me overcome obstacles. The principals who were willing to go to bat at the school board on my behalf and last not least the other kids, who became my friends, some to this day/ The friends who love me, encourage me and make everything worthwhile. I can only hope that some day the Naugler children can have all these things and more too. They deserve it.

    Sincerely,

    Denise H, the One-eyed Canadian.

  25. You’re of the mentality that no one should receive money not earned.

    Not I.

    I am of the mentality that nobody should give money to people without knowing who in the hell they are and what they are about.

    I know people do this all the time (hence, men like Joel Osteen, for example, end up with great big mega-churches and mansions for themselves, and even very rich people get scammed by the likes of Bernie Madoff), but that doesn’t make it right.

    And please explain to me how I am “hounding” anyone. As I’ve pointed out, you came here (from London, England!!!). I didn’t go to you.

  26. Denise, I have read time and time again how you wish they had their children kept away from them. That alone would enrage the normal person. It is one thing if the children were abused, but they weren’t. You brought all of the negativity towards you when you opened your big trap and haven’t shut it since. I would suggest that you and the few others that have overly invested too much time into this families story, to step away and take a break.

  27. Denise,
    If, and I will say this loosely, if the children wanted to live outside the homestead, I would be one of the first to stand up and say they have that right. Everything I have learned to date, is that all of the children are happy with the lifestyle that they live. Until then, it is our responsibility to butt out, as it is none of our business. Forcing this family to do something that you think is the right thing to do, is not the correct way for this to be handled. Creating page after page, and now a blog to try and force the issue is not the proper way for this to be handled.

    CPS, Law Enforcement, and many other agencies out there have looked this case over. Kentucky has one of the toughest Child Protective Services in all of the land. While we may also be the most controversial, it is one of the best when it comes to protecting the children. Not one child would have been returned if it wasn’t deemed safe.

  28. Mr Blakely,

    You exaggerate. I never said time and time again to have the children their children kept away from them. I have said that the parents should be supervised until such time that they can properly care for thier children.

    Your comment said, “I would suggest that you and the few others that have overly invested too much time into this families story, to step away and take a break.”

    I respectfully suggest you take your own advice. You are so overwhelmed you resort to bully tactics and name calling.

    The proud Canuck
    Denise H

  29. Kentucky has one of the toughest Child Protective Services in all of the land.

    Odd. I just recently spoke with a Kentucky sheriff’s deputy who told me the exact opposite. I think I’ll believe him over random person on the internet who is now in Stockholm (you do get around).

    And obviously, there are people in Kentucky who would argue with you.

    meeting about CPS

    reason why increase in removals

    Everything I have learned to date, is that all of the children are happy with the lifestyle that they live.

    I haven’t disputed that for one second. Children tend to be okay with wherever they are most of the time unless somebody is pulling out their toenails. We don’t ask children how happy they are with the status quo. They’d be delighted to have ice cream for every meal, but reasonable people don’t go by that.

    And you do not get to decide “the proper way for this to be handled.” I already told you why this blog exists. You don’t like that. I don’t care.

  30. You brought all of the negativity towards you when you opened your big trap and haven’t shut it since.

    Ah, that’s too bad. You’re crossing a line here.

    You may remain and have a discussion, but you may not call other people names.

    I would suggest that you and the few others that have overly invested too much time into this families story, to step away and take a break.

    And I would suggest you shut your big trap (just quoting you.) See how nasty that sounds? See how unproductive that is?

    Back in San Jose, are you?

  31. Mr Blakely,

    Having just read your many comments, it appears to me that your conversational tone has devolved rather quickly. It also appears to me to be very recognizable. As to your assertion that Facebook has shut me down, on the contrary I, as well as many others, are still standing. Now if we were to discuss whose pages have been shut down by Facebook (this does not include those who have voluntarily stepped away) what do you think we would find? Regardless, this is not Facebook, and last time I looked we were still in America all sharing in those glorious rights and freedoms guaranteed by our government. I really do feel sorry for you as it appears that you cannot extend to others those same freedoms and rights you demand for yourself.

  32. “Denise Hundt No reasonable person could. I can hardly wait until the court date in June. I think we will all be able to have a collective sigh of relief when the judge rules that the children will not be returned indefinitely – at least that is what I hope will happen. IMO , I believe Joe and Nicole are cooking something up to blow the whole thing out of the water before that court date. They are working hard to make themselves victims and will do anything to maintain that stance but nothing concrete to be in readiness for the children’s return as distant of a possibility as that is.”posted on TNR 6/6/15

    “Denise Hundt That is what I am thinking. They know the kids would have shared some “blessed nasty little secrets” by now that will blow any chance of them getting them back. Heck even if the kids said nothing, the children are probably so far behind academically, behaviourally etc that it would be obvious how neglected they are and Nicole & Joe know they are toast. I have nightmares. The nightmares being that they walk away and start this cycle all over again with child number 11. Look at Michelle Dugger she was able to have 19! Albeit The Dugger woman had to have several emergency c sections. This brings me to a dark thought. How many babies were there that we do not know about because of unassisted birthing practices? Can you imagine the trauma thee kids might have witnessed? When I helped assist my stepdaughter with the delivery of her child it was very overwhelming and slightly traumatic. More so then I myself was delivering as I Knew what was going on with my body. This is all just conjecture and maybe an over active imagination but Nicole and Joe think dark things, not normal happy solutions, so anything is possible.”

    “Denise Hundt I am gobsmacked I can’t believe they returned them.” posted on TNR on 7/6/15

    This and many many more!

  33. “Having just read your many comments, it appears to me that your conversational tone has devolved rather quickly. It also appears to me to be very recognizable.”

    Lisa, considering this blog is the first time that I choose to speak out, I find it humorous that all of a sudden, you can compare me to others. I don’t post to those pages because I am not going to go through the harassment that many have.

  34. Watching, you spoke my mind in response to Jonathan–> “Would people donate again . . . given the same circumstances? Yes. They would. because the same circumstances would mean that they were being deceived as they were the first time. Would they do it again after everything that everybody knows? I cannot say with any certainty that they would.”

    Speaking of myself, deceive me once…shame on you.Twice, shame on me.

  35. Mr Blakely,

    Well then all that I can say is appears you are well versed with the writings of the true haters over these last months or you are simply of their ilk. What I can say with certainty is that as I read your comments on this thread they do appear to me to devolve for a somewhat pseudo intellectual response to “shut your trap”. Really, that kind of response does not endear your position to anyone and causes people to write you off.

  36. Lisa, considering this blog is the first time that I choose to speak out,

    Sure.

    BTW, how are you enjoying Strasbourg?

  37. Mr Blakely,

    Had I known you would have been hanging on my every comment I would have worked harder at it! I stand by the every comment I made. I do believe the Nauglers are unfit. You, sir, are doing what you usually do. You try and deflect in order to validate your opinion as superior. I’m afraid that is not working for you. Your butt hurt feelings are coming through loud and clear. I suspect you are not just a casual observer.

    Happy holidays!

    Denise H.

  38. Blessed Little Blog, of course I am going to hide my ip address. That is what smart people do. Why do I need the aggravation of people harassing me? I have better things to do than to fend off vicious attacks.

  39. of course I am going to hide my ip address.

    Oh, is that what you were doing? But you’re “Jonathan Blakely,” aren’t you? 🙂

    Nobody is attacking anyone here “viciously.” Except you, when you told Denise to shut her “big trap.”

    And you have better things to do? Yet you’ve been here all day long off and on.

  40. Mr. Blakely seems to have visited a few blogs in the past with all the country hopping. Please tell me which supporters have been viciously attacked? I believe most of the “haters” as you would refer to them have been viciously doxxed and harassed. But which supporters?

  41. Mr. “Blakely”,

    **”Forcing this family to do something that you think is the right thing to do, is not the correct way for this to be handled. Creating page after page, and now a blog to try and force the issue is not the proper way for this to be handled.”**

    How can anybody force this family? It appears to me that the father threatened to make his situation go viral. It did exactly that. Along with over $45,000 dollars of other people’s money essentially stolen under what many consider to be deceitful circumstances — he got his wish. It went viral. Thousands of people were interested in it. Many immediately donated money and many realized that the entire portrayal was disingenuous.

    I agree, partially, with one of your earlier posts. However, let’s look at the other side of it. You stated

    **”Have you ever wondered, what if “I” quit harassing this family? Try it, you might just learn something.’**

    Here’s what I wonder. What if the Naugler parents simply stopped throwing rocks at the hornet’s nest? What if they stopped threatening (ridiculous) lawsuits and stopped pretending to be something they aren’t. What if they stopped making claims of being homesteaders and minimalistic, back to basics, off the grid people. Their farming ventures do not seem to be something to emulate. They certainly spend a lot more time online and tied into technology than they do homesteading.

    What if they quit running and dumping gasoline on every withering little flame? What if they stopped insulting the military and law enforcement and stopped contradicting themselves with their anti-government rants? What if they contained their episodic fits of profanity and instead, showed the masses watching that they are the godly and christian people they so adamantly say they they are? What if they stopped offering homesteading and parenting advice?

    Would that perhaps be the “proper way to handle this”?

  42. Tit for tat

    “We” can’t “change” the Nauglers and the Nauglers can’t change our opinions. The opinions that were formed from all the self-documenting that the Nauglers have provided for us. Years of it.

    P.s. Mr. Blakely your opinions won’t change ours either 😉

  43. If the Naugler parents quit throwing gasoline on every little tendril of smoke, they would probably see their undocumented cash donations dry up entirely.

  44. What bothers me is how they exploit their kids to beg for money. That Mr. Naugler can’t be much of a man. I’d sell a kidney before I would put my kids ou there to beg. Oh, wait..I just remembered. Joe got his old lady to try and sell her kidney! He is too lazy to even do that! Hahahahahaha! OMG! Sorry, he is so silly I cannot stop laughing.

  45. Having followed this family and their adventures since before their story went “Viral”, I have a few observations I would like to express.

    When I first started watching the “Homestead” blog I thought it was a somewhat sad satirical attempt at education in failed self- sufficiency attempts. I later realized the parents were serious and could not learn from their mistakes. The more I watched the more drawn in I became, one sad attempt after another. I keep watching just as a rubber necker looks back at a wreck on an interstate, always wondering the outcome.

    I am happy for a place where I can finally voice an opinion. I have seen the stalking and harassment that has occurred to people who do not share the “Homesteads” point of view. Now it appears the ones who support their sad attempts are coming here hiding their IP addresses like criminal terrorists and stalkers.

  46. “Here’s what I wonder. What if the Naugler parents simply stopped throwing rocks at the hornet’s nest? ”

    This is a perfect example of why everyone should sit back and let things die down. If you keep poking them over every single comment, they are going to continue to defend themselves. It is easy to say walk away, but let the same scenario happen to you, I doubt that you or anyone would allow themselves to be bullied or harassed.

  47. ” I believe most of the “haters” as you would refer to them have been viciously doxxed and harassed.”

    I believe this to be a flat out lie!

  48. “Nobody is attacking anyone here “viciously.” Except you, when you told Denise to shut her “big trap.””

    If telling someone to shut her big trap is”viciously attacking”, I feel sorry for your real life exposure.

  49. “P.s. Mr. Blakely your opinions won’t change ours either 😉”

    I am not here to change your opinions. Stupid cant be fixed, not even with Duct Tape.

    [Admin: I am allowing this, but it’s sort of treading on dangerous ground. Has anyone here called you “stupid,” Jonathan?]

  50. I doubt that you or anyone would allow themselves to be bullied or harassed.

    I keep telling you, I am not “harassing” anyone. I am not “bullying” anyone. Look those words up. To do that, I would have to go to their FB pages and blogs and endlessly comment and poke at them, stalk them and libel them. I am not doing that.

    I am right here, making public commentary about their very public blogs and FB pages.

    The problem here is that Joe and Nicole want to be able to say anything damned thing they want without any repercussion for doing so. They want to blast away at anyone they do not like (for example, Sheriff Pate, or the FDA, or the government in general. . .) and if anyone says, “Gee, I think you’re wrong and your comment sucks” or even “I have a different point of view,” they get all peeved and start screaming about persecution.

    Words have consequences.

    You are completely free to go start a FB page or blog about this one. Pick apart what I say. Hell, I’m being quite generous and allowing you the freedom to say pretty much whatever you wish right here.

    And the “same scenario” will not happen to me because I understand that people have a right to critique my public words. If I do not wish to be criticized, then I STFU.

    Funny how “libertarians” get so upset about other people having liberty.

  51. If telling someone to shut her big trap is”viciously attacking”, I feel sorry for your real life exposure.

    My blog, Jonathan. My rules. You don’t like the rules. . . well. . . you know.

  52. @Jonathan Blakely – If they chose to make their page private, there would be fewer reasons for people to comment. Of course, there would be fewer people reading it and then sending them money for reasons unknown to many.

    [Admin: edited to remove reference to business. That subject is off limits here.]

  53. ” I believe most of the “haters” as you would refer to them have been viciously doxxed and harassed.”

    “I believe this to be a flat out lie!”

    It’s not a flat out lie. I have tons of screenshots. The Facebook page “Blessed Little Trolls and their Minions”has a large collect of screenshots of this activity by Naugler supporters if you would like to take a look. https://www.facebook.com/Blessed-Little-Trolls-and-their-Minions-1481110778874036.

    Please tell me which supporters were doxxed and harassed?

  54. Mr Blakely,

    Day two and here you are again. Commenting and regurgitating the same opinions you had yesterday. Telling everyone else to silence themselves. Pointing out what you find to be the faults of others. Calling out what you feel to be an obsessive interest. While it is slightly entertaining, you do see the contradiction between your words and your behavior. I would suggest that you consider practicing what you preach, before you attempt to preach to me. I’m funny that way. I have an incredibly small tolerance for hypocrisy.

  55. Admin – my apologies. I didn’t realize that was off-limits. I’ll be careful to avoid that in the future.

    No problem at all.

  56. The Naugler’s situation was also featured on the homeschoolersanonymous site. They were not impressed.

    Admin – I don’t know if it’s okay to mention another site, obviously don’t let this post go through if I’ve just blundered over another blog line. Thank you.

  57. “Mr. Blakely”

    The concept is quite simple, actually. Stop commenting on the blog, and you won’t have to deal with any “personal attacks” or “harassment.” Don’t flatter yourself into believing that the folks here care about who you actually are or what you have to say. Our opinions on these pigs won’t be swayed. So why bother? Unless it is your goal to be associated with angry, filthy, abusive people. Whatever floats your boat?

  58. Admin – I don’t know if it’s okay to mention another site, obviously don’t let this post go through if I’ve just blundered over another blog line. Thank you.

    Links are fine. The more information we have here, the better. Even links antagonistic to this blog are fine.

  59. Admin,
    Did you by chance contact the attorney to let him know that his name was being used for, shall we say, nefarious reasons?

  60. Admin,
    Did you by chance contact the attorney to let him know that his name was being used for, shall we say, nefarious reasons?

    I did not. Right now, I’m waiting to be served some papers. 🙂

  61. It’s odd that Mr. Blakely continues to insist that people are hating, following or harassing “the family”. People have criticized the parents, but not the children. The parents post a great deal of information publicly, therefore they shouldn’t be surprised if they receive criticism.

  62. One happens to think they thrive on criticism. It supports their ongoing platform, internet social media obsession, and misguided fundraising. No, it is no surprise they receive criticism, it is well calculated and planned. imo..

  63. The only way any of this could remotely be illegal would be if you were spouting falsehoods and damaging their livelihoods (that has happened TO me, and the people behind it were intending to ruin my business, so I’ve been around the block on that). In that case, you wouldn’t have to go to them. But you’re commenting on facts and on Nicole’s own posts. You aren’t exaggerating anything, of lying, or making false claims even unintentionally. So they can go eat the rotten pancakes they fed their kids.

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