The Blessed Little IPO Episode began in Hardin County. Nicole and Joe do not live there. They live in Breckinridge County. However, Nicole’s business is in Radcliff, which is in Hardin County.
Lisa’s history with all this begins when Lisa made a single comment on one of the news pages or the sheriff’s page or some other neutral place when the children were first taken. She said something to the effect that the state had followed all the right procedures to take those children (Joe and Nicole, of course, have insisted that the state failed to “follow protocol” and “kidnapped” their children).
When she was challenged by Joe for making the statement, with some taunt about being an “internet lawyer,” she said that she was, in fact, a retired attorney.
In a matter of a couple of hours, they had her address, photos of her home, and began doxxing her.
This got her attention.
What might have been only a passing notice from Lisa became something more, and the Nauglers are totally responsible for that.
Because she felt threatened, Lisa started her page (Blessed Little Trolls and Their Minions) in an effort to fight back.
In all that time, and other than that one brief exchange with Joe on that neutral page, she has never initiated direct contact with either of them. She has never called them, or emailed them, or messaged them. She has all of them blocked on Facebook (for all the good that does), including every Naugler child who has a Facebook account, and also including all the socks like Charles.
When Viv and Eric came into the picture, Lisa didn’t know them from Adam. However, subsequent to their involvement, she was contacted (either by them or by somebody on their behalf, I’m not sure which) because they needed some help determining if they needed to get a lawyer and if so, who to hire.
This is no different from what happens to me all the time. I’ve been retired from nursing for 24 years, but I still have friends and family who call me for advice or come over to have me look at some part of their anatomy and tell them if they need to go to the doctor.
So, because Viv and Eric had absolutely zero experience with being in court and were understandably nervous about it, Lisa agreed to accompany them to the Hardin County Courthouse for their first hearing.
Prior to doing that, she wanted to see where the incident had occurred and meet Viv and get her to tell the story on site. This is similar to me explaining to somebody that I cannot begin to try to determine if their rash is serious without seeing it. So, she visited Viv’s business, because that’s where the incident occurred.
She was concerned enough about Nicole’s hyper-paranoia to wear a coat with a hood, to park as far away from Nicole’s shop as possible and to try to come and go without being noticed. That was fruitless, of course, since Nicole had an eagle-eye out, watching every move Viv made. But there was no contact between Lisa and Nicole at the shopping center. Zero.
At that first hearing, Lisa accompanied them to court. Nicole noted it, and was lying in wait at the second hearing.
Nicole went straight to the county clerk’s office after court and filled out an application for an IPO against Lisa.
Now is the time to go read the page on IPOs if you haven’t already.
Because this is difficult to read, here’s what Nicole wrote:
Lisa Luthi has been harassing myself and my family continuously since June 2015. She has publicly documented her every thought and action toward my family including following us to our home and business. She has made it public knowledge that she will continue this behavior infally indefinally. On 1/30/2017 she followed my husband and I to court and followed us as we left. Her goal is to invoke fear into myself and my family. She discusses this on her public FB page and finds it amusing that her behavior is permitted.
Here’s the next page:
This is the page where she lists the minor children who are so stressed out and who are being stalked endlessly by this awful woman. On this particular application, she only listed one child, the oldest boy who is still a minor and living at home.
Lisa has never seen him, ever.
However, since he is the one who is facing a felony charge due to brandishing a gun, well, we gotta come up with a reason why he was just so frightened, don’t we? And wouldn’t “stalkers” be a good reason? And wouldn’t it look great if they could produce an IPO that they’d gotten against an evil stalker when that child goes to court?
This is especially hilarious. I couldn’t believe what I was reading. Lisa drinks very little, very infrequently. I have partied with her, and I know. This is something like Nicole asserting that I was “driving drunk” past her wretched little shithole and “taking photos of her family.”
Nicole would have no way in hell of knowing anything about Lisa’s alcohol consumption. No way at all. Other than those two times at the Hardin County courthouse, she had never laid eyes on Lisa in her life before.
And on this page, she checks off the things she is requesting.
First, she wants the court to stop Lisa from contacting her. Considering that Lisa has never initiated contact with Nicole ever in the history of the world, this is sort of silly.
Second, she doesn’t want Lisa anywhere near either her place of business (and notice that she put that address first) or her home (she puts that second). The order she lists these in is exactly backward from what you would expect (home first, work second). But remember, she was getting this in Hardin County and she most definitely had read the various statutes and she knew perfectly well that she was supposed to apply for the IPO in the county where she resides.
Her excuse about this issue is that supposedly a police officer told her to apply in Hardin County because that’s where she actually had seen Lisa the only two times they ever met. However, Nicole doesn’t typically do anything a police officer says. Instead, she waves around the supposed applicable statute, complete with number. I find it difficult to believe she didn’t know she was applying in the wrong county.
And finally, she wanted the court to stop Lisa from selling Nicole’s shit. I am serious. That’s what it says.
So, Nicole signed and delivered this.
And an idiot judge, Pamela Addington, signed it, electronically. This means that Judge Addington never actually held this in her hand. I have no idea if she even read it.
But remember what I said about the possible things a judge can do with one of these applications?
One is to simply dismiss it right there. A second alternative is to issue a summons and nothing else. And a third is to issue a temporary protective order (TIPO) with a court date about two weeks later.
Judge Addington took the third option.
Nobody checked to see if Nicole actually lives in Hardin County.
And Lisa was served.
This is the summons. It just says “be in court on X date.”
Here’s the TIPO.
This page names the “protected persons,” Nicole and the minor kid that Lisa wouldn’t recognize if she fell over him.
Lisa is told that she can’t abuse Nicole or the kid anymore. Sorry, I know I’m being flippant, but this is stupid.
She’s also told that she can’t contact them. Since she never had, ever, that wasn’t too hard.
This says that the court thinks Lisa is a stalker. But of course, remember that this determination is based on nothing at all except Nicole telling them that she’s an alcoholic and shit.
In addition, she is told to stay 500 feet away from both Nicole and the kid that she’s never seen, and never go to either Nicole’s work address (again, listed first) or home address (second).
Even this judge, who I believe is either very distracted or just incompetent, didn’t think that telling Lisa not to sell the garden shed was necessary.
And thus we entered a two-week period where Lisa was under a pretty-much bogus temporary protective order. It was bogus because it was filed in the wrong county. Lisa figured this out in a very short period of time (minutes) but said nothing because you don’t tell your enemy what you are doing.
I went silent, as you all noticed. I was cryptic. I was vague. I did that on purpose.
Nicole was combing the internet looking for any mention of this crap, and I wasn’t going to give her shit. I didn’t want to screw up accidentally, so I said nothing.
And Lisa, on the advice of her attorney (yes, she is a retired attorney, which is why she did a very smart thing and retained an attorney), took down her page.
And we waited.
And then court day came.
When they finally went to court, Lisa’s attorney had enlisted an assistant to help him navigate all the internet-related, screen-shot related, convoluted stuff that is involved in all this. So three people came to court that day: Lisa, her attorney, and the assistant.
The three of them, plus Joe and Nicole, stepped up to the bench and the judge asked them to introduce themselves. The assistant didn’t say anything (thinking she didn’t really count) until the judge asked her specifically who she was and why she was there.
She replied that she was serving as the lawyer’s assistant. And then she said her name.
And Nicole had a shit fit. A pure shit fit. Nicole, of course, didn’t recognize Courtney, but she knew the name. And Joe went into a tirade about “trolls” and waved out over the audience (several people were in attendance, as witnesses), complaining bitterly.
I would have given my right arm to have been there.
Lisa’s lawyer then made a motion to have the whole thing dismissed because Nicole had filed it in the wrong county and actually Hardin County and hence, Judge Addington, had no jurisdiction.
And ultimately (but not until everyone left, and the judge went off to meditate over the motion to dismiss and then everyone had to come back, two weeks later, except Courtney who was no longer needed because it was obvious that it was going to be dismissed) that is what happened. It was dismissed.
Now please read this carefully. It says:
Motion having been made and the Court being sufficiently advised, this matter is hereby DISMISSED inasmuch as this court lacks jurisdiction in this matter.
Please understand what this means. It means that Judge Pamela Addington says that she has no authority in this matter (Nicole’s claim that Lisa is an evil stalker). It means that what Judge Pamela Addington thinks about Nicole or Lisa or anything related to them is just as important and carries exactly the same weight legally as what you think about it.
And that’s that.
Well, remember Schrodinger’s cat?
Judge Addington was apparently addled that day.
She signed another order.
In this one, she acts like she never wrote the previous one (and she wrote the previous one first because Lisa’s attorney got a copy before leaving the courthouse because that’s what you do when you’re an attorney) and ordered the whole thing transferred to Breckinridge County.
Furthermore, she decided to make the TIPO, the one she had no jurisdiction to issue in the first place, remain in effect until a hearing in Breck County.
Only she couldn’t do either of those things. She had already dismissed it. This second order is simply a curiosity and not worth the paper it’s printed on.
What probably happened is that the clerk got confused about the two cases ( or three – I don’t know how many there are anymore)- Lisa’s and then whatever was happening with Eric and Viv – and made out these bogus transfer things for both of them. And the judge appears to simply sign stuff without reading it.
But, in between the original hearing, when Courtney was there and the motion was made to dismiss, and the final hearing, two weeks later, when it was all dismissed, Nicole could read the handwriting on the wall, and ran over to Breckinridge County and applied for another IPO there.
And we’ll talk more about that next. Right now, I have a cow who needs dinner.