For some reason, Nicole and Joe have chosen Todd Pate to play the starring role of Chief Villain in their play-of-several-acts, the one where Nicole “needs closure,” but keeps talking about it endlessly.
Todd Pate is not holding their CPS case open. Todd Pate cannot make a single decision about their children. Todd Pate was asked his opinion in family court (at least this is what Nicole says) regarding whether or not the Naugler parents were in violation of any laws, and he supposedly said, “No.”
But he’s the villain. He’s the person with whom I am supposedly in collusion, the mastermind coordinating all the terrible, outrageous stuff being done to Nicole and Joe.
I have never met Todd Pate in my life. I have never been in contact with him in any way, via phone, via text, via the internet. I have never been in contact with him via an intermediary. Nothing.
There was one person who contacted me privately with a horrific story about Joe. I believe the person is very credible and asked the person to contact Todd Pate with the story. That person did that, and in fact, had already done so before contacting me. That’s my total and entire dealing with Todd Pate, and that certainly couldn’t be seen as direct or even indirect.
But he’s the villain. The evil bad guy. Even worse than the very disdained Bradley Butler.
On the day those kids were taken, Nicole and Joe were supposedly at somebody’s house for a “slumber party.” I do not believe that story for a single second.
Here’s my personal take on what happened. I went into this in more detail here.
Joe and Nicole knew that the woman Joe had menaced had called the police. They knew that it was going to involve trouble. They’ve dealt with this kind of shit forever, over and over again.
I believe that Sheriff Pate knew they were running.
Nicole had come back to the property to pick up stuff she hadn’t gotten in their apparent haste to flee. She brought the two older boys with her as grunt labor to pick up stuff.
Pate was waiting for her.
He was there because there was an emergency order in the works to take those children. He was just waiting for the judge to sign it. And being a decent fellow, he tried very hard to give her a chance to cooperate, let the Cabinet folks talk to the kids, and it would all be less painful.
He knew it was probably not going to work.
He also didn’t want to be shot, so he was carefully evaluating what he was dealing with. How many kids were there? Where was Joe?
Domestic situations like this are the most dangerous situations for a police officer that there are. This is when policemen are shot and killed. He knows this. He’d done some homework, and that included checking the very public posts that Nicole makes on her very public pages.
That’s why he was cautious.
And that is mostly likely why he let her leave the property. He wanted to get her away from her home ground. He knew he was going to take those boys and he didn’t want to be murdered in the attempt or have to hurt Nicole or hurt one of the boys.
The man was doing his job, one for which he gets a lot of grief and not a lot of thanks.
You know, I’ve worked in a high-stress situation. Nicole never has. Washing dog butts is not high-stress. The worst that can happen is that you might be bitten. Most of it, if my own experience grooming Minnie is any indication at all, is mind-numbingly boring.
Taking care of several patients in a recovery room or an ICU is not boring. Pretty much never boring.
But I cannot even begin to understand what it must be like to go to work, get a call, have to go out and not know if you’re going to be shot at, or worse, killed. And have this happen day after day after day. It has to be only surpassed in stress levels by being a soldier in a war zone.
Sheriff Pate appears to be a very methodical, determined man with a whole lot of self-control.
He thought the situation out, made a plan, and executed it flawlessly.
Of course, he’d done that before. Years before.
Go on. Watch the video. It’s only a few minutes.
Imagine what it would be like to be locked inside a closet 2 by 2 feet wide, your body wrapped in a wire fence and bound by chains like an animal for hours—even days—at a time. You aren’t given any food. You’re 6 years old, and your parents have done this to you.
Click on that and read the rest.
Now imagine that you are Deputy Sheriff Pate and you hear this awful story from a teenage girl who has run away from home. Something about this girl’s story rang true with Pate. He’d probably heard dozens of teenagers spin yarns about everything imaginable. I doubt he was naive.
But he believed this girl.
So he did the right thing. In fact, he did the thing he was required to do by law. He notified CPS in Indiana. And they did nothing.
Here’s Nicole’s take on what happened next.
She says he was “skirting around the law. . . to save that boy.”
Skirting around the law.
What he did was tell the parents of the teenage girl that they needed to come to Kentucky to get her. I’m not sure where in the statutes that is illegal. Nicole is really good at citing all the laws, so maybe she has it handy. I look forward to her enlightening me.
He told them to come to Kentucky to get them across the state line so he could do something. He was hoping that they’d bring the little boy with them, and he was right. They did.
And then, when Clayton was obviously frightened out of his wits, Todd Pate gently told the child that his father wanted him to tell Pate the truth.
He was lying, of course.
Maybe that’s what Nicole thinks is illegal.
It’s not. It’s not even slightly illegal for a police officer to lie.
Todd Pate saved that little boy from what would probably have been his death. He got national recognition for doing so.
Maybe that’s why Nicole hates him so much.
He went on to become the sheriff of Breckinridge County and meet Joe and Nicole Naugler.
He’s had a couple of encounters of note with Nicole. The first was when the youngest daughter ran away.
[You know, it’s really nice that Nicole records everything and it’s all nicely transcribed here. There is no doubt about what happened or who said what. It’s all right there.]
But Todd Pate is a human being. And like all human beings, he’s not perfect.
One day, after the infamous encounter with Nicole and then Joe, Todd Pate hit a brick wall while dealing with his own problems.
Nicole could not wait to share it. She restrained herself to just a share on the BLH page at first, but couldn’t resist going further.
Here’s the back story. Todd Pate had some marital problems. He got drunk. He isn’t the first person who ever had marital problems, and certainly not the first one who ever got drunk as a result.
His wife called the police saying that he’d called her and threatened to kill her, her parents and himself.
At that point, his colleagues tracked him down and found him sitting in a car, drinking and with his gun in the glove compartment.
From that story above, Nicole turns this into a picture of Todd Pate as an alcoholic who “picked” at her family because they don’t have a fancy house, but should have just focused on his own life, because see, he’s flawed.
I rarely drink. Very rarely. But I have been rip-snorting drunk before. More than once. Dave drinks beer in the summer, a bit of wine with meals, and he too has gotten positively plastered a few times. Neither of us are by any stretch of the imagination alcoholics.
If Pate can be called an alcoholic for drinking during an emotionally-charged domestic situation, then Nicole needs to take a hard, long look at Joe.
She goes on to complain that it’s “wrong” to give an imperfect person power and authority over another person. That’s wrong, she says.
What would she suggest?
Giving power and authority only to perfect people? Where would she suggest finding them?
Giving power and authority to nobody? In that case, what is she doing running to the courthouse every few minutes to file some IPO application against somebody? Why does she call the police every time somebody offends her? Why does she threaten lawsuits every day or two?
Todd Pate was doing his job that day in May 2015. He was elected to his position and he was carrying out a court order. Not to do so would have placed him in contempt of court and subject to impeachment. Ask Kim Davis about it.
But Nicole couldn’t help herself. She talked about it on her other page.
Al Wilson was a “supporter” of Todd Pate. What does that even mean? The only thing it could mean is that somehow Nicole knows who Al voted for in an election. Or maybe Al said he voted for Todd. I have no idea.
However, notice Nicole’s profile picture in that screen shot?
She loved it, you see.
Her reasoning is that if Todd Pate was shown to be flawed in October 2015, then by extension, Todd Pate has always been flawed and every decision he has ever made in his entire life has been wrong, and that includes carrying out a court order in May 2015.
This is a logical fallacy, of course.
Let’s go back to this screen shot now, the one about how Pate “skirt(s) around the law.”
. . . he did it to kidnap my family. . .
He followed a court order, and took her two oldest boys into custody and ultimately arrested Nicole because she pitched a screaming-meemy fit. There was no “skirting of the law.”
. . . He still sits as sheriff of the county.
Yes, he does. That’s because he was elected to the position. Elected. The people of Breckinridge County wanted him to be the sheriff.
He needs to have his badge and gun taken away.
He was elected. To “take away” his badge and gun would require impeachment. He cannot be fired.
. . . he needs to go sit in jail.
He did, briefly.
When he was arrested, he did not throw a hissy-fit and yell about his rights. He was arrested, went to a hearing, pled guilty immediately on the spot, and right after that hearing went straight into rehab.
For several weeks, while he was gone, someone else filled his shoes.
When he came back, he issued a public statement apologizing for his behavior.
He should probably also get a mental health evaluation.
Exactly what do you think happens in rehab?
Todd Pate actually suffered more repercussions from what he did than Joe ever has for any of his crap. He has never once, that I know of, complained about any of it. He never blamed anyone but himself. Oddly enough, the people that he threatened, his wife and his in-laws, seem to be fine.
This, folks, is called “character.”
Yes, it’s unfortunate that Todd Pate’s personal problems played out in such a public manner. Yes, he could have made better decisions that day.
But shit happens. People make mistakes. Sometimes nobody or very few people know about our mistakes. Sometimes the whole world knows. Sometimes nobody cares about our mistakes. Sometimes it’s a very big deal and affects a lot of people.
Character is not about never making a mistake.
Character is how you behave after the fact. Character is about owning it. Character is about admitting fault and accepting some help.
I am going to make a bet here that Todd Pate is a Republican. I have no reason to make that assumption except that everyone in Kentucky seems to be Republican.
I never, ever vote Republican. Ever. Not for anything. Ever.
If I lived in Breckinridge County, I would make an exception to that rule and vote for Todd Pate, no matter what his political party is.
Todd Pate is a Democrat.
My day is now complete.