HOST: I think given these issues and our inability to ask you questions, I think we’re gonna wrap it up with you and let you go, uh, and maybe have you on at another time, and, um, let you kind of . . .
This is just kind of a difficult conversation right now, and um, we will, uh, we’ll have you send us a message and the Facebook stuff of all, whatever it is that you would like us to link to and tell people about, we will do it then and you can do it right now ’cause we can hear you, if you want to tell listeners.
Let everybody know if there’s any way that, uh, that you know, uh, if you need any, any help dealing with any of this, if there’s any way people can reach out to try to help. (1)
JOE: Uh, okay. Yeah, um, I like this, I wish I, I wish I could hear
[fiddles with phone while hosts wait]
It just came on, go ahead and say something again.
HOST: Can you hear us?
JOE: Yep. I gotcha now. I can hear you loud and clear now.
HOST: Okay. So, so, this woman, um, she, um, I’m looking at the Blessed Little Blog here and first off, I seem to remember seeing this woman’s posts before and they were pretty awful, but, I see this post on one of the first pages, um, that says that you guys don’t know how to homestead. (2) So that’s interesting.
JOE: Right. Right, that’s why I say, I changed the word to “quasi” because they, and they want to, what they do is they stage conflicts like this, like, oh, bantering back and forth and then of course, uh, when they come over to our Blessed Little Homestead page, and they go on and on and on, they eventually get banned and then they say, well, that’s a problem, and then now that’s drama, and now they hate us for it, and all that other stuff, but yeah, that’s why I say “quasi,” uh, because it’s not, it’s not gonna be the same and I have yet to meet two people that are homesteading the same or farming the same, there’s a lot of different methods.
HOST: Yeah, it sounds like “quasi” allows you to avoid criticism.
This is a fucking weird project. Like, Blessed Little Blog is a weird project. “You can’t outNaugler the Nauglers.”(3)
Yeah, that is really weird.
Like, this amounts to me to nothing more than like slander or something, libel, or hit piece or something.(4)
JOE: Oh, they add, well, in our humble opinion, so because we’re somewhat public a figures, uh, they’re gonna talk about us like that, um, you know on some level, I get it, I mean, you see what a public figures go through, Trump, I mean, Jesus, are you gonna sue everybody? Uh, (unclear) like this, and I’m not here to banter but what, where I draw the distinction with them is they market their blog. They market and advertise it, literally pay. . .(5)
NICOLE: They tell people, oh, if you wanna know the truth about the Nauglers, go here, and say. . .
HOST: The truth about the Nauglers? What the hell?
JOE: And it’s all just conjecture. It’s all just . . .
HOST: I’m sure they could just ask you if they wanted to know the truth about you.(6)
NICOLE: But everything we say is a lie, so there’s no point in asking us. They should ask people who’ve never met us
JOE: Yeah, these people have never met us, but here’s the scary part, is, we’ve linked these people back to the sheriff’s department in Breckinridge County.(7) Uh, and we have, we can only speculate, but we believe that there’s actually money involved from the county, (8) uh, because we’ve got a lot of screen shots of people being recruited, of people, you know, from people with different skill set, like bloggers, or investigators, or, you know, just little things, antagonists. These people have all been recruited, uh, to do it, and it’s a, it’s a handful of people, I’d say about seventy-five with maybe another hundred for support, uh, and they go everywhere. I mean, they’ll go to every, every social meeting place, everywhere and banter. I remember, one time, we went over to, uh, the governor of Kentucky’s page and asked him, you know, hey you promised you were gonna audit CPS, and deal with the funds that are involved in that, and uh, and whatnot, and they went over and just started trashing us. Everywhere we go, they’re there.
And so now we’ve also got a woman, uh, who’s running a, it’s called Naugler Nation, it’s a, uh, it’s a Facebook, uh, page that, and she does a podcast, and that’s all it is. Just people calling in, just, nobody’s really met us. I think they’ve had one person call in that’s met us, she used to work with me, she worked with me for a week and a half, at Burger King, before she was fired, uh, for, uh, trying to procure drugs from other employees plus the other employees just didn’t like her because she came in very arrogant. It was the, it was a management training store, and I got, I got placed in my store and she got fired.
She tries to swap the story around, that I was the one that got fired, and I was like, anybody could just call the company and verify the employment time.
HOST: Verifying information, that’s an old way of doing things. We don’t need to do that. It’s the age of the internet. Just report it and move on.(9)
JOE: Right, right.
HOST: Yeah, I’m looking at the Naugler Nation Twitter and it’s all just shit from like, like the same sorts of things the blog talked about, only talked about on Blogtalk Radio. Blogtalk Radio allows this sort of harassment?
All right, it’s a form of free speech.(10)
Well, on Blogtalk Radio, it might not be. Like on Blogtalk Radio, they might have policies against this sort of thing. I would, I would pursue that.
And on the Naugler Nation Facebook page, it just says it’s hosted by the Blessed Little Trolls and Their Minions, like these people really don’t seem to have, uh, any better form of entertainment than to just mess with your family, which is crazy.
JOE: Here’s the kicker, is they’ll tell you two things. They’ll tell you I’m a fat, lazy piece of crap wimpling and that my wife is a, is a toothless hag who just keeps poppin’ out babies and then on top of that they’ll tell you that they’re representing thousands of people that we’ve wronged over our life span and they’re just, all those thousands of people, are just terrified of us. I’m like, well which one is it? Are we Jimmy Hoffa and the mob or are we worthless people? Uh, so it just, they run in circles.
And when people ask for evidence, when people ask for evidence, like, they’ve actually contacted clients, cause we run a pet grooming business out of Radcliff, Kentucky, and uh, we’ve had clients tell us that they’ve been in contact with,(11) and uh, the one woman was really good friends of ours, and uh, she responded with, well, I’m, I’m really good friends with Nicole and her husband and their family and uh, cause the lady goes off and talks, you know, this, this and this she said, uh, I’ve got evidence if you want to see it. So the woman said, well, I’d like to see the evidence, and the woman was, like, well, if you don’t believe me, that’s fine. I’m just telling you from one, uh, soldier-wife to another soldier-wife and if you don’t want to believe me, that’s fine, and not once have these people ever produced evidence of anything they ever accuse us of.
Like they’ll tell you that I’ve got a history of violence. If that was the case, the media would have shown it. It would have been like, oh,
HOST: Yeah, that would have came out already. And you wouldn’t have your kids with you.
JOE: . . . all over, it would have been. Yeah, exactly, it wouldn’t have been “Off-grid family loses children” it would have been “Violent criminals get their kids taken.”
People like this are really, really problematic. Like, I’ve had, I’ve had experience with people like this in the past and it’s one thing to deal with someone who doesn’t like you because they had a legitimate gripe. Cause, you know, usually you can work that out. You can approach them, and you can figure out what the problem is, and if you both care enough to make it better, you can do that.
But when people are just, when they’re just out to get you, just because, like, that makes people very, very dangerous, because there’s really nothing you can do to get them off of you.
You know, like their, their sole goal is just to destroy you and that is, it’s very scary, to have to deal with people like that.
JOE: They say we’re public figures, and, and, I would say we definitely have slander and libel, uh, lawsuits that we could file, but, but we don’t have celebrity money.(12)
HOST: Yeah, how much time and money are you willing to waste on that?
JOE: Exactly. You know, and you know, I’ve prayed about this, (13) and uh, you know, and I’ve come to a logical conclusion that, okay our names are getting run through the gutter, and whatever, I wasn’t planning on running for president anyways, I don’t believe in rulers, and I don’t believe that people are, you know, any of that, so at least people are talking about these issues. They’re talking about CPS. They’re talking about family court. They’re talking about corruption. They’re talking about homeschooling. They’re talking about homesteading. They’re talking about home birthing. They’re talking about vaccinations. They’re talking about circumcision. They’re talking about all these plethora of issues that have become political hot spots in, in, our environment. So, I like the fact that people are talking about these things, because that’s where most people will do their research. I mean, you have your, you know, most of these people that are politically charged, like this Sally Davis and this Lisa Luthi and a few others, they’re all, like I said, and I hate to use the word liberal because the liberal Democrats have hijacked such a wonderful word, um, but it, it’s these political people
HOST: The leftists (14)
JOE: we get it from the right too.(14) Oh, my gosh, we’ve had three-percenters and patriot people come out and say, oh, we see your issues, we want to help you, and they’ve called us, and then they get involved and they realize that we’re anti-militarization of our police force, that we’re anti-tyranny, and uh, you know, that, uh, you know, we speak out against these things, and so they start going at us like, oh, you hate police officers, well, screw you, and I’m like who do you think’s gonna come take your guns, Mr. Three Percenter?
HOST: Or your kids.
Yeah, it’s not enough that, you know, that you’re just another person who could, uh, make use of some help from another person just because they’re good people. You also have to agree with their opinions otherwise, you know, there’s something wrong with you.
JOE: Yep. Yep. And that to me is sad. Uh, you know, I have never given my hand in charity (15) and expected them to say, eh, well, you need to, you need to vote for this guy, if I do this. Uh, you know, never. I’ve, you know, I’ve seen people on the side of the road and I’ve pulled over and helped them change their tire and not once did I say, you know, before I change your tire here, uh, uh,
HOST: What do you think about the wage gap?
JOE: [Laughs] Yes. Yes. Yes. What do you think, [laughing] Well, I’m sorry, I just can’t help you today.
All right, Joseph, I have my own kid I gotta take care of in the next fifteen minutes. Will you, uh, can you kinda wrap it up, maybe give us some final words and then tell people about anything you want to tell them about, in terms of how to link to you. And we’ll link on our pages.
JOE: [To Nicole] Do you have anything?
NICOLE: No, I just think, I guess, in closing I would like to say is that, uh, it’s been really hard on our family and people have said why are you doing this to your kids, why not just cooperate with the police and do what they say in the beginning and then none of this would have happened. Well, if someone doesn’t stand up at any point, it’s just gonna keep happening.
NICOLE: And hopefully, this will help others, in fact, it has, cause I know that I get messages from people [starts crying], sorry, I get emotional, I get messages from people who’ve had their kids taken by CPS say, you know, your story helped me through this, I knew what to expect, you guys gave us courage because not everybody’s willing to speak up. Not only are we being targeted by the state, we’re being targeted by the statists.
NICOLE: . . . who in turn, have been just as dangerous as the government because they’re the ones that are (garbled). I just tell people, you know, that’s, that’s we’ve always been outspoken about what we do and hopefully somebody can learn from our success and our mistakes, so, that’s really what we’re try. . .
Thank you. Thank you for sharing that.
JOE: [To kids] Anybody? Anything?
I guess, you know, ultimately I just, uh, I live out of love.(16) And uh, um, and I can’t, I don’t know what your guyses beliefs are, and it’s irrelevant to me, uh, you know, I don’t share my testimony to convert. Uh, I know what my God has called for me to do
JOE: And I have prepared myself and my family to do as such. Uh, and not that we instigated any of this. We are living peaceful. . .
JOE: We didn’t go to their. . . we didn’t picket their fences, (17) we don’t do anything. They came to us. (18) Um, but uh, you know, at some point enough is enough, like my wife said, enough is enough. And, you, I can’t sit there and look, not only my God in the eyes, but I can’t look, you know and I tell a lot of these people, you know, when you empower tyranny, how do you give homage and honor to the soldiers who have died for our freedom? (19)
Uh, because you’re, you’re not. You’re sitting here, you know, saying, oh, well, I’m being disrespectful to police while enabling such a, such a tyrannical system. Such a fascist system that it can’t possibly give honor to those who have actually died, uh, you know
HOST: And it’s under the pretense of freedom
JOE: So, I just, I don’t, we live in Radcliff, Kentucky, and it’s next to Ft. Knox
HOST: [expression of disgust](20)
JOE: And I communicate, we have a lot of clients that are soldiers, veterans, and uh, I just, I, my heart bleeds for them. I, I, I cry for them daily. Uh, on what the government sends them out to do. Uh, the people they have to kill for this, for imperialism, and uh, and I just, I wanna, I fight for freedom, and, and, you know, I fight for liberty, not just for myself but for my children. Um, and for, for those that have done it before me, and those who will do it after me. Um, I know that for me, one of the most powerful stories is when Christ, and you know, like I said, you guys can have your faith, this is just where I’m coming from, you know
JOE: when I read in the scriptures, the Bible, uh, when Christ rose from the dead and uh, you know, these twelve disciples, uh, walked with this man for three years, went through what they went through, whether the miracles were real or not, they sacrificed with this man for three years, and he shows back up on the beach and he asked Peter if he loved him three times, and he just asked him, well, why, after three times, he says, yes, why are you just going back to fishing? (21)
And I just, I can’t go back to just living a selfish, mindless life. Uh, I, I’m already awake. I can’t close my eyes. And I won’t close my eyes.
So, you know, that’s it. I mean, I could go on forever, guys.
HOST: I’m getting that feeling from you.(22)
We appreciate it, thank you.
All right, I’m going to let you and your family go.
JOE: I appreciate all you guys. I appreciate each of you.
HOST: Thank you so much.
JOE: I feel a lot of energy by seeing you guys. It’s amazing.
HOST: Yeah, I’m so honored to talk to you. I really wish you and your family the best.
Absolutely. Thank you. Your story’s awesome. Peace.
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Well, guys. Let’s just all say it: Fuck the state.
Now, I have seen a lot of fuckery, uh, that is going on with people calling CPS, CPC, or, or, DIFUS or whatever it’s called in that state on other parents. Um, especially, you know, I spent a lot of time hanging around like, you know, slummy areas when I was younger and even some of my adult years, and there’s a lot of that shit going, but not to this degree. I mean, it’ll be shit like, uh, you know, uh, somebody says something smart or whatever, and the next thing you know, knock, knock, knock, uh, DIFUS is at your door, and they’re in your life for the next three months. It’s mandatory, and at least that’s what it is in Jersey, as far as I know. Which means, during those three months, they could pop up at any time at your house for any or no reason. You have to let them in. They go through all of your shit. They separate you from your children, and a lot of times they try to manipulate your kids to get them to say all kinds of crazy shit, just so they can have an excuse to snatch your kids away from you. . .
That’s how they make money.(23) Their profit is in getting more kids. The more kids that they can take from families, the bigger budget they can justify to higher up political masters. And that’s not to say that C, that everything CPS does is bad. That’s, that’s the real tragic part is some kids, the best thing to do is to take them away from their families. You know, I mean, I’ve, I’ve dealt with kids that have had literally the worst things you can imagine other than killing them happen to them by their parents, you know, on a regular basis. But, uh, then that’s the problem with this statist motivation is that you don’t get resources to protect children. You get resources to take as many children as you can even if they’re already in safe environments.
And you know, I mean, you say that like CPS does good things, but I would say that even the good things they do, having a monopoly on those services, on those sorts of things, uh, means that those things fundamentally aren’t good because the neighbors can’t stop it while it’s happening and prevent further psychological and physical trauma.(24)
Well, I think that’s where the issue comes from, is because you can’t, like you can’t block it. You know, even if the thing that they are doing is good if they’re taking some kid out of an environment where he’s constantly being beaten or molested by his drug-addict parents or whatever. I mean, yeah, I get that that seems great in that case, but you can’t prevent that from happening to, to, you know, somebody who, who is great with their children, and you know, everything is fine.
And it’s the statist snitch mentality. It’s like not if you see something, do something to stop it from happening. It’s if you see something, say something. You know, let us take care of it because we’re the only ones who can and if you disagree we’ll fight you or kill you or take away your children and make your life hell.
And what are they seeing?(25) What they’re seeing is people raising their kids in a different way than what people typically raise their kids. And because, we talking about (talking over each other), because of this mold, stupid-ass public school mold that kids get forced into and they have this idiotic mindset that this is the way to do things and that the state overlords should always be praised and their way is what is best for children and there are no alternatives and then they grow up from that environment and become this type of person that thinks raising your kids on a homestead is problematic. Or that homeschooling your kids is some negative thing. Idiot.
What really got me was, it, just seemed like all of this was just, was just the state just trying to whip these people in line, like just dragging them through the process, just having this giant pissing contest just to, just to let them know who’s boss, just because. Like, there, there was no, I mean, from what I’m hearing, there was no reason for any of this shit.
Well, see, and the thing like you can just say it’s for spite, but to me I see like a possible long line of parents who say, well I don’t want to go through what they went through, so I guess I won’t keep it up. You know, it’s not just to keep these people in line. It’s using them as an example. You fuck with us, we’ll take your children and make your life hell. But more people than just that. It’s the ripple effect.
Absolutely. You pick one person to make an example of them, just like you know when it comes to like pirating music or games or whatever, um, like a lot of people do that, they don’t even try to hide, because why, fuck it. But every once in a while, you know, they will just target some, some unlucky person and just dump all of the fines and crazy shit on them as possible, just to make an example out of them.
Exactly. All right guys, I have to wrap stuff up on my end. So, uh, any final thoughts?
Yes, I’m fucking disgusted.
We’ll talked more about this last week. I think we’re all sick to our stomach. I mean, of course, it is possible that they are lying about everything. I haven’t researched it, (26) but I, I am always inclined to believe that someone has been oppressed by the state,(27) and it sounds like there is not evidence being presented and any time you see such a, such a strong counter, um, counter case, countering of individuals by both the state and the media in terms of their blogs and podcasts, there is usually a pretty good indicator that the state is doing something they want to conceal by blaming someone else.
You know, keep in mind they can’t be oppressed because they have no institutional power.
Just one of those reminders that they have, the state has the violence and they will do whatever they want, or whatever they can get away with.
Also another reminder is to make, be very, very careful who you let into your lives or who you let even look into your lives, because, even, even if they can’t do shit to you, they know that they can always call the cops and, or whoever else, child protective services, whatever, because, and in a lot of cases it all comes down to who reports first. And even if it’s a lie, liars know that shit. If you can get to the cops first with your bullshit story, then you’re okay. If your intention is just to fuck with somebody, you know, then, that’s very easy to do as long as you can get to them first.
It’s the same sort of like childhood thing where you know, you know, I got my story in first, so the teacher or Mommy or somebody believed me.
Yeah, I used to do that shit when I was in school. I’d smack the shit out of somebody and then yell out, stop hitting me and the teacher would turn around and then see the other kid swinging back and he’d get in trouble.
That’s very smart. Damn, people are, they just, they just try to deal with the problem as if they’re actually dealing with the problem. Just kind of deal with something, you know, if we can get a kid in trouble, and then say, I solved it, I did something. . .
But that’s the thing that’s killing me. Like, what are they solving? Like, what are these people solving?
Like, I mean, let’s say these people reached their stated objective and they destroy these people’s lives and they destroy the lives of their, because that’s what’s going to happen if these people really get their way.
[talking over each other]
I mean, there’s nothing, few things more dangerous to the state than people raising a lot of children and teaching them the truth about the nature of reality and the nature of the state of the world that they live in. They don’t want people that understand the way the world works and now his children have an experience of the state that is more visceral and powerful than it would have been if he just would have told them about it. You know, it doesn’t, it’s not a good thing, it’s absolutely horrific, but man,
And I bet they probably have a lot less difficulty because of the way that they raised their children because the way that CP, uh, CPC tries to manipulate children when they get them alone and ask them very leading questions so they can try to get the answers that they want and it looks like, from, from the interview with the children, that they didn’t get the answers that they wanted out of them.
So what’s amazing about that, like children can’t sign contracts because they’re like, not legal, full citizens, but they can somehow still deliver totally accurate testimony as if they were given just as many legal rights and just as good information even though they probably weren’t.
Yeah, it’s just whatever is convenient for the state. Okay, let’s really wrap things up. I keep saying that.
All right guys, plug your shit.
1. Bingo, podcast guys. You just said the magic words. Joe and Nicole will love you forever. “Help” means money, though, not “help.” Just send money.
2. Exactly where would you, Mr. Podcast Guy, have seen my “posts” that were awful? Where? I have never posted a single time on any of Nicole’s pages. I only posted a couple of comments on a couple of the critic pages, and one of those was a conversation where I was defending Nicole (and got banned for my trouble). So where? Everything I’ve written is here on the blog. And the Nauglers do not raise their own food. They do not do anything much except squat on some land and shit in buckets. They have had a few animals, but most of those end up dead and not by being butchered for food. They cannot even keep hens alive. So I’m not sure what you might think is “homesteading,” but they aren’t doing it.
3. What is weird? I think it’s weird that you had Joe on your little podcast, lapping up every word he said without bothering to check his veracity at all. As for “outnauglering the Nauglers,” at my house, to “naugler” is a verb. It means to make do without what you need, to jerry-rig something using baling twine when you really should go ahead and fix it right, and it also covers carrying horrible crap in buckets.
4. It might seem to you like that, but I assure you, it is not.
5. I’m not sure what “market” means, but not only have I never paid anything to advertise this blog, I don’t even post it on Facebook, except for very occasionally on my own personal page. I do that when I write a piece that I think my FB friends might find interesting; for example, when I’ve written about calves or cheese-making. And “they” don’t do shit. There is no “they” here. There is only me. There are people who read this blog who share links to it on Facebook, but they aren’t me.
6. Actually, no, I can’t. I’ve invited Nicole to have lunch with me twice. I offered to pay for it. She declined.
7. Who are “these people”? I have no connection to the fucking sheriff’s department and Joe knows it. Sheriff Pate’s mother-in-law sent me a friend request on FB and I accepted it. I had no idea that’s who she was. We never had a conversation by PM, or phone, or in person or anything. When Nicole accused me of this, I didn’t even know what the hell she was talking about. She had snooped around on that woman’s page and found me listed in her friend list (my friend list is not visible). I do not know Sheriff Pate.
8. And there you have it. Joe, who accuses me of speculating, speculates. You know, if you want to know about how this blog is financed, you can just ask me. Hell, I’ll just tell you. When I started this blog, there were three or so other people who donated to pay for the initial setup and first year. The blog is more than a year old now, and I have taken care of all the expenses since then myself.
Furthermore, the only money that has ever changed hands (since that initial donation thing) is the money that has been donated to the Kentucky Sheriff’s Boys and Girls Ranch. You can see the links and a blurb about it to the right of the page. When I realized how many page views this blog was getting, I decided that it might be a good idea to somehow raise some money for charity, so I looked around for something good. I wanted a highly-rated charity that had a good reputation. I wanted something in Kentucky if possible. And I strongly preferred something related to either law enforcement or the military because I knew that would piss off Nicole. Furthermore, if it related to children that would be even better. And the Sheriff’s Ranch met all those criteria. We’ve raised enough money to send at least one child to camp next summer, and I’m very proud of that.
9. Mr Podcast Person is being sarcastic here but might take his own words to heart. I do lots of verifying. He has done zero.
10. That’s right, it’s free speech. Just like your podcast where you trash me with no evidence, and this blog.
11. Not only have I not known of anyone who has ever contacted one of Nicole’s clients, I wouldn’t know how to find her clients, and don’t care about her clients, and don’t allow much conversation about her business on this blog at all. It might just be that somebody out there doesn’t like Nicole. Ya think?
12. No, Joe, you don’t have either a case or money.
13. Gag me with a spoon.
14. If Joe and Nicole “get it” from both the left and the right, do you think perhaps it’s not political at all? Maybe?
15. This clause is true. The rest, well, I have doubts.
16. More gagging.
17. I have no idea, but I am quite sure that “picket our fences” will become a new expression meaning. . . something.
18. Well, not in my case. I was just minding my own business when I saw a news article about the Nauglers and read it, and that led me to the Breckinridge County Sheriff’s FB page, I think, and I made a comment. Not about Joe and Nicole. I made a comment to Joe. I replied to him, and said that I thought the state did the absolute right thing to take their kids.
Joe then came over to my FB page, which is pretty public, “followed” me, and then snooped through my photos, and “liked” a few. This, I have discovered, is what he does to let you know he’s looking. It’s an intimidation thing. He then commented on a couple of my posts, using veiled language, attempting to engage me in an argument. He ended up threatening lawsuits and shit.
He should have just left me alone. I didn’t like it one bit and because he did that, I got more interested in who in the hell this jackass was. And the rest is, well, a blog.
19. I suppose that calling soldiers ‘baby-killers’ is honoring them.
20. And that let me know that Podcast Guys are just like Joe. No wonder they believe every word out of his mouth.
21. One of the perks of having grown up as a fundamentalist Christian is that I have read the Bible a lot. In fact, my mother made me memorize the entire book of John when I was a kid so I could go to Bible camp for free when I didn’t even want to go in the first place.
And Joe’s account is a bit embellished. Well, a lot embellished. Actually, his punch line simply doesn’t exist at all.
Now, I don’t believe these Bible stories are actually based in fact at all, so I don’t think Jesus said anything, period, but if you’re going to trot around touting your “faith” and acting like “God” sent you on some special mission, and thinking you’re this great “prophet,” at least get your Bible stories straight.
22. You are just now figuring that out? I could have spared you.
24. Oh, dear FSM, the “anarchist” method of child protection: Just march over to your neighbor’s house and bash him in the head or something. That’ll work out great.
25. What we’re seeing is a couple who have spent years living off donations from good, decent, well-meaning people, both in churches (IRL) and online. We’re seeing a couple who plaster their entire lives on the net, but in a calculated way in order to paint a picture that isn’t exactly accurate. We’re seeing a couple who pretend to “unschool,” but actually do no educating at all. We’re seeing a couple who pretend to “homestead,” but actually do nothing of the sort, but instead live on some acreage without cultivating any more than a sorry-ass attempt at a backyard garden, and who shit in buckets and dump them on the ground. We’re looking at a couple who collect some scraggly animals and let them run loose (they call it “free ranging” but it merely means “too damn cheap and lazy to put up a fence”) and then get outraged when the neighbors aren’t delighted.
26. It’s entirely possible and even probable. I have, in fact, researched it.
27. When I was growing up fundy, the people around me were just like Mr. Podcast Guy. If somebody claimed to believe the same crap we did, we believed them. That’s how Mike Warnke conned people way back when. It’s especially important to vet stories when you want to believe them. It’s more important to vet those stories than it is at any other time.
And with that, we are at last done.